Re: [Amsn-devel] AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
Op donderdag 20 juli 2006 06:57, schreef Youness Alaoui: > > > All I'm saying is that burger said "hey, telepathy is cool" (he's > > > developing it) and we all said "cool, we'll use it", but did we really > > > do a study for this, did we really do an engineer's work seeing which > > > is best, wh

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
You both do have your points, my opinion is not to take any sides.. I do like TkHtml and I respect your work on it, but I also respect Harry's research, analysis and decisions... I do agree that using something existing is better than rewriting everything ourselves, but it is always depending o

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 09:58:30PM +0200, Harry Vennik wrote: > > > > As the name suggests XML2GUI is a way to render a GUI as described in a > > > XML file. So XULRunner is an example of an implementation of such a > > > thing. 'Our' XML2GUI was an idea, not some part of code, even though > > > t

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 09:44:17PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: > Le Wednesday 19 July 2006 21:38, Harry Vennik a ?crit?: > > Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 21:14, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > > > > This is just a name collision. The XML2GUI that was to be designed by > > > > us is not

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
Yes Phil, it is as you said, and it should be developped by us, but I asked for a research to be made to see what already exists... il ne faut pas reinventer la roue... if it already exists, then use it, that's why Harry tried to find what alternatives we had... it could save us a lot of time..

Re: [Amsn-devel] AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
Hi Harry, First thanks for the taking the time to answer me. Overall, I think it should be discussed over IRC, I HOPE to get my new PC by Friday (damn stupid bastards of assholes of whatever being late in ordering my new PC parts...) Anyways, i'll comment (briefly for once) on what you said, unt

Re: [Amsn-devel] AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
Well, this should be part of the design, the design is to use telepathy as the layer for the protocol, so we'll be dependent on telepathy, it's not like having a tcl core that is already supposed to be multiprotocol by using different layers... KKRT On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 09:02:35PM +0200, Ph

Re: [Amsn-devel] [Amsn-commits] SF.net SVN: amsn: [7062] trunk/amsn-extras/plugins

2006-07-19 Thread Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
QStat is also available inside DarwinPortsBilliob, do whatever you think is the most logic JérômeCourriel:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]MSN Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]iChat & AIM:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Skype: germinator5000 Le 19 juillet 2006 à 18:37, Tom Hennigan a écrit :Hey Billiob,I've built a version of qs

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Bruno Costa
On 7/19/06, Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 21:14, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil:> > > render the widgets described in the XML> > > For XUL : and for Youness it's decided on the compil time : can you> > > switch from GTK2 to QT in Firefox ? No. (By the way

Re: [Amsn-devel] [Amsn-commits] SF.net SVN: amsn: [7062] trunk/amsn-extras/plugins

2006-07-19 Thread Tom Hennigan
Hey Billiob,I've built a version of qstat for OS X, it's pretty easy. You can either download the binary and installer from my site (http://dhost.info/climbtothesky/tools/qstat/qstat2.6.dmg), or to build it from source (apparently it's as easy as "make osx", but this doesn't work) you run: `make "C

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 21:14, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > > > render the widgets described in the XML > > > For XUL : and for Youness it's decided on the compil time : can you > > > switch from GTK2 to QT in Firefox ? No. (By the way is there a QT > > > engine for XUL ?) Phil > > > >

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
> > As the name suggests XML2GUI is a way to render a GUI as described in a > > XML file. So XULRunner is an example of an implementation of such a > > thing. 'Our' XML2GUI was an idea, not some part of code, even though > > there has been work (by me) on a piece of code to implement that idea, >

Re: [Amsn-devel] AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 18:15, schreef Youness Alaoui: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 08:56:46AM +0200, Harry Vennik wrote: > > Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 06:43, schreef Youness Alaoui: > > > No way we drop ANY platform... not even in the beta phase, we want > > > windows beta testers too! > > > > That's

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Le Wednesday 19 July 2006 21:38, Harry Vennik a écrit : > Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 21:14, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > > > This is just a name collision. The XML2GUI that was to be designed by > > > us is not the same as the one in the sum up. > > > > So there isn't any trouble if we do how

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 21:14, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > > This is just a name collision. The XML2GUI that was to be designed by us > > is not the same as the one in the sum up. > > So there isn't any trouble if we do how we said some months ago : XML2GUI > (ours) to tie aMSN and the GU

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Le Wednesday 19 July 2006 21:08, Harry Vennik a écrit : > Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 20:58, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > > Well, some errors in the sum up : > > For TkHtml : " - It's still TK, any form element for example is still an > > ugly TK widget." > > Wrong because it's you who handle

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 20:58, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > Well, some errors in the sum up : > For TkHtml : " - It's still TK, any form element for example is still an > ugly TK widget." > Wrong because it's you who handle these tags and you can create another > widget : why not a pixmap

Re: [Amsn-devel] AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-19 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Well... We spoke about multi protocol before Telepathy... So why not consider Telepathy as a protocol and libmsn as another one ? With that we will be able to use Telepathy or LibMsn if we don't want a big stuff... Phil Le Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:15, Youness Alaoui a écrit : > On Wed, Jul 19, 2

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Well, some errors in the sum up : For TkHtml : " - It's still TK, any form element for example is still an ugly TK widget." Wrong because it's you who handle these tags and you can create another widget : why not a pixmap widget ? For XML2GUI : Are you sure you understood XML2GUI ? For me, XML2GU

Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: Traduccion a euskara de aMSN

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
Euskara == Basque. We already have it (langeu) I'll send a reply. Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 18:19, schreef Youness Alaoui: > Humm.. I wonder what euskara is.. (no need to answer, I'll search on my > own). Anyways, it should be sent to amsn-lang I think. In the meantime, you > can redirect her/him

Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: Traduccion a euskara de aMSN

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
Humm.. I wonder what euskara is.. (no need to answer, I'll search on my own). Anyways, it should be sent to amsn-lang I think. In the meantime, you can redirect her/him to the translations page of our website, it has instructions on how to translate and what to do to request a new language... (b

Re: [Amsn-devel] tclCarbon Utilites

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
Ok then, no problem! Thanks for the info! KKRT On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 08:21:14AM +0100, Tom Hennigan wrote: > It was written for us by David Luyer, and we are the only ones using > this modifed version (the original version was written by Daniel > Steffen), so yes we need to give the sourc

Re: [Amsn-devel] AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 08:56:46AM +0200, Harry Vennik wrote: > Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 06:43, schreef Youness Alaoui: > > No way we drop ANY platform... not even in the beta phase, we want > > windows beta testers too! > That's right. That is why I said 'If D-BUS for Windows is ready BEFORE aMSN2

[Amsn-devel] Fwd: Traduccion a euskara de aMSN

2006-07-19 Thread Lz
(s)he wants to translate amsn to euskara... to the one involved in the language stuff, send him/her a mail. -- Forwarded message -- From: aitiba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jul 19, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: Traduccion a euskara de aMSN To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Buenos d

Re: [Amsn-devel] tclCarbon Utilites

2006-07-19 Thread Tom Hennigan
It was written for us by David Luyer, and we are the only ones using this modifed version (the original version was written by Daniel Steffen), so yes we need to give the source code under our license.- TomOn 19 Jul 2006, at 05:33, Youness Alaoui wrote:Do we need the sources in repo ? is tclCarbon

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 branch

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 06:30, schreef Youness Alaoui: > On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 08:27:30AM +0200, Harry Vennik wrote: > > Op dinsdag 18 juli 2006 02:28, schreef Youness Alaoui: > > > Ok, thanks for the check... I did notice the OnMac/OnUnix thing, but I > > > also saw a -padx {0 12} vs.-padx [lis