Re: [Analytics] [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia Detox: Scaling up our understanding of harassment on Wikipedia

2017-06-22 Thread Kerry Raymond
I agree you can probably never pin down these terms to everyone's satisfaction. But, at the end of the day, is the real issue here the definition of harassment or is it the issue of people leaving Wikipedia because of unpleasant interactions with other people or perhaps retaliating in some inapp

Re: [Analytics] [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia Detox: Scaling up our understanding of harassment on Wikipedia

2017-06-22 Thread Leila Zia
Hi Pine, On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Pine W wrote: > > At the same time, I'd appreciate getting a more precise understanding of > how WMF is defining the word "harassment". > This is a policy question and wiki-research-l and analytics mailing lists are not the best place to discuss it.​ (I

Re: [Analytics] [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia Detox: Scaling up our understanding of harassment on Wikipedia

2017-06-21 Thread Pine W
I'm glad that work on detecting and addressing harassment are moving forward. At the same time, I'd appreciate getting a more precise understanding of how WMF is defining the word "harassment". There are legal definitions and dictionary definitions, but I don't think that there is One Definition t

Re: [Analytics] [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia Detox: Scaling up our understanding of harassment on Wikipedia

2017-06-21 Thread Leila Zia
Hi Dan, Thanks for your note. :) On the Research end, Dario is still a big supporter of the efforts around research to help us better understand harassment (as you noticed in our commitments to the annual plan) and with Ellery's departure, I've been helping him a bit to make sure we can move forw

Re: [Analytics] [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia Detox: Scaling up our understanding of harassment on Wikipedia

2017-06-21 Thread Toby Negrin
Hi Dan -- we are actually in touch with Detox as part of the Community Health initiative. They are doing their first quarterly check in this quarter so expect some updates then. Ping me offlist if you want more info. -Toby On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Dan Andreescu wrote: > I'm reflecting