Re: [android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-05 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Jebediah Huang wrote: > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:31 AM, David Turner wrote: >> I think you may only be hearing one side of a pretty complex story. > > I want to hear your story also. Where to read this? Indeed. I'm a long time LKML reader and I somehow seem to ha

Re: [android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-05 Thread Jebediah Huang
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:31 AM, David Turner wrote: > I think you may only be hearing one side of a pretty complex story. I want to hear your story also. Where to read this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this

Re: [android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-05 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > Nope, it's more > important for you to get on a soapbox. If that's what it takes to get our Marketplace stats fixed.. -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr

Re: [android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-04 Thread Disconnect
(Moving to android-kernel) "I know all about this but I can't say anything" is less than convincing. Perhaps you can involve someone who -can- point to the (presumably public) discussions and problems you are referring to? On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:54 PM, David Turner wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 4,

Re: [android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-04 Thread Dianne Hackborn
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Greg Donald wrote: > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Dianne Hackborn > wrote: > > This very much does not belong on android-developers. How about > > android-kernel? > I totally understand your need to keep this as quiet as possible, sorry. > Um yeah, that's it,

Re: [android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-04 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:54 PM, David Turner wrote: >> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=4c5752ca3e5af4ff&hl=en >> >> Not only is it still not fixed, but notice the complete lack of >> communication from Google.  Not a shred of news for the affected >> developers as t

Re: [android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-04 Thread David Turner
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Greg Donald wrote: > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:31 PM, David Turner wrote:All > I know is what I see with my own eyes. Greg KH has been extremely > helpful over the years with getting new code/drivers pushed into the > mainstream kernel. He's a hell of a nice guy

Re: [android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-04 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > This very much does not belong on android-developers.  How about > android-kernel? I totally understand your need to keep this as quiet as possible, sorry. -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message becau

Re: [android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-04 Thread Dianne Hackborn
This very much does not belong on android-developers. How about android-kernel? On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Greg Donald wrote: > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:31 PM, David Turner wrote: > > I think you may only be hearing one side of a pretty complex story. > > I guarantee you that Android kern

Re: [android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-04 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:31 PM, David Turner wrote: > I think you may only be hearing one side of a pretty complex story. > I guarantee you that Android kernel engineers did try to work with upstream > during the last 3 years. > They are just tired of egos/politics and have devices to ship instead

Re: [android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-04 Thread David Turner
I think you may only be hearing one side of a pretty complex story. I guarantee you that Android kernel engineers did try to work with upstream during the last 3 years. They are just tired of egos/politics and have devices to ship instead. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Greg Donald wrote: > Wh

[android-developers] Android drivers removed from mainstream kernel

2010-02-04 Thread Greg Donald
Why isn't Google playing nice with regards to the Linux Kernel Android code? Greg KH says the Android code is stagnant and as a result got removed recently: http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/android-kernel-problems.html I know for a fact Greg KH bends over backwards to help Linux Kernel developers