Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-05-02 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Marcelo, The slowdown you are seeing (by a factor of two or so), is what I'm seeing too, with Eclipse on Windows 7/64, and it's about the same with several very different phones. It seems typical, and I've learned to live with it. Others reported more significant slowdowns in certain cases (

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-05-02 Thread Marcelo Cantos
Eric's inappropriate manner notwithstanding, I'll weigh in with him and Leigh to say that, yes, there can be a genuine and substantial slowdown when running under the debugger. I am using Eclipse Classic 3.6.2 with the latest ADK (downloaded two days ago via the standard mechanisms). For hardware,

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-20 Thread Roger Heim
I use IDEA on both Windows and Linux and have absolutely no problems. I much prefer it to Eclipse because of my .NET and ReSharper background. On Apr 15, 1:17 pm, TreKing wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Eric wrote: > > What does Eclipse vs. IDEA have to do with any of this? > > You me

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread String
Have you tried my suggestion from early on in the thread: profile your app when the debugger is attached to see where the slowdown is? Bonus points for comparing it to a profile without the debugger. If you need help with the profiler, start here: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/10/

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Streets Of Boston
I agree with you about the *simulator/emulator*. If you don't have an absolute stellar system (and even then...), the emulator can be very slow. But Eric's problem is with an actual device, not the emulator and Google is acknowledging the problem with the emulator. And I haven't seen the issues

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Leigh McRae
Fair enough. I'm just saying. I will put up a sample when the lone in Lone Dwarf Games Inc becomes many, but for now I just can't. On 4/15/2011 3:01 PM, Mark Murphy wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Leigh McRae wrote: This problem has been brought up before and I know at least one

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Mark Murphy
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Leigh McRae wrote: > This problem has been brought up before and I know at least one other person > on this list has mentioned it.  I just did a test and my game takes 35 > seconds to load to the main menu when launched from eclipse using a > simulator.  When I deb

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Leigh McRae
This problem has been brought up before and I know at least one other person on this list has mentioned it. I just did a test and my game takes 35 seconds to load to the main menu when launched from eclipse using a simulator. When I debug using a simulator with no break points at all, it take

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Android K
I hear you brother! On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Eric wrote: > > > On Apr 15, 1:23 pm, Mark Murphy wrote: > > > I do not have any > > > watches or breakpoints activated. > > > > Just because *you* don't have anything like that activated does not > > mean that the *IDE* is not doing somethin

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Eric
On Apr 15, 12:47 pm, Streets Of Boston wrote: > At what point does your app start running slowly: > - Initially, don't start DDMS or Jetbrain or Eclipse. > - Run the app on your phone which is unconnected. Does it run OK or slow? > - Then connect your phone to your Mac through USB: Does the app

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Kristopher Micinski
Great, we'll make sure to tell Google about this one. Thanks! Kris On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Eric wrote: > > > On Apr 15, 1:46 pm, TreKing wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Eric wrote: > > > In any event, since absolutely nobody else seems to experience a > debugging > > > s

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Eric
On Apr 15, 1:46 pm, TreKing wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Eric wrote: > > In any event, since absolutely nobody else seems to experience a debugging > > situation that is painfully slow, I will have to unfortunately assume that > > some aspect of my application (i.e. high level of

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Eric wrote: > In any event, since absolutely nobody else seems to experience a debugging > situation that is painfully slow, I will have to unfortunately assume that > some aspect of my application (i.e. high level of network traffic, and > high level of UI updat

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Eric
On Apr 15, 1:23 pm, Mark Murphy wrote: > > I do not have any > > watches or breakpoints activated. > > Just because *you* don't have anything like that activated does not > mean that the *IDE* is not doing something that might use debugging > interfaces that might be slowing things down. Clearly

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Mark Murphy
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Eric wrote: > What does Eclipse vs. IDEA have to do with any of > this? Debugging, apparently. Personally, I use neither of them much. > I do not have any > watches or breakpoints activated. Just because *you* don't have anything like that activated does not me

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Eric wrote: > What does Eclipse vs. IDEA have to do with any of this? > You mean besides the fact that all of using Eclipse have no problem and you, the lone person using IDEA, are? ---

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Streets Of Boston
At what point does your app start running slowly: - Initially, don't start DDMS or Jetbrain or Eclipse. - Run the app on your phone which is unconnected. Does it run OK or slow? - Then connect your phone to your Mac through USB: Does the app still run OK? - Then start DDMS (not Jetbrain or Eclipse

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Eric
On Apr 15, 12:11 pm, Mark Murphy wrote: > When you contacted your IDE vendor (Jetbrains) regarding your problem > with their product, what did they tell you? > When you tested your application in Eclipse -- to prove that the > problem is in Google's code and not Jetbrains' -- what did you find

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Eric
On Apr 15, 11:48 am, Kristopher Micinski wrote: > However, insulting Google makes you look unintelligible (I'm guessing that > calling it a "simulator" doesn't win many points either.) I never called the debugger a simulator. Maybe I should have never called the painful emulator a simulator, t

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Eric
On Apr 15, 11:37 am, Streets Of Boston wrote: > In my experience, apps run somewhat slower in the debugger, but not by much. > It is certainly not 'utterly unusable' slow. > If you do experience a very very slow performance while debugging, it may > help us answer or solve your problem to descri

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Mark Murphy
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Eric wrote: > Ok, I can supply some info, but I don't think it will help.  The > problem is with the debugger, not my setup.  That is why my post was > terse, prompting Google to get their act together. And as soon as you demonstrate proof that Google's the sourc

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Eric wrote: > Ok, I can supply some info, but I don't think it will help. > Better more information than not enough, usually. > That is why my post was terse, prompting Google to get their act together. > I don't think this is going to prompt Google to do any

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Streets Of Boston
The one main difference between my setup and yours is that your use Jetbrains. I'm using Eclipse 3.6. Have you tried using Eclipse? What is your performance if you just fire up 'ddms' (not Jetbrains or any other IDE) and dump the heap or take a look at your apps' threads? -- You received this m

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Eric wrote: > What else do you want to know?? > To quote myself: "... all the relevant variables (OS, Eclipse version, ADT version, any logs, etc, etc)". > When I run it outside the debugger, it performs satisfactorily. The only > changing variable is the deb

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Kristopher Micinski
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Eric wrote: > > On Apr 14, 11:22 pm, TreKing wrote: > > I have a Nexus One with 2.3.3 installed as well and it runs just fine for > > me. > > A very real possibility is that the "complete crap environment" is your > own. > > It would be hard to tell, though, fro

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Streets Of Boston
In my experience, apps run somewhat slower in the debugger, but not by much. It is certainly not 'utterly unusable' slow. If you do experience a very very slow performance while debugging, it may help us answer or solve your problem to describe what your setup is. Maybe some issue in the USB com

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Eric
On Apr 15, 3:05 am, String wrote: > Sure, apps run slower when attached to the debugger, but that's hardly > surprising given the overhead. The iOS version of my app performs no slower in the debugger than it does outside the debugger. -- You received this message because you are subscribed t

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread Eric
On Apr 14, 11:22 pm, TreKing wrote: > I have a Nexus One with 2.3.3 installed as well and it runs just fine for > me. > A very real possibility is that the "complete crap environment" is your own. > It would be hard to tell, though, from the complete lack of information in > your post. "It's slow

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread lbendlin
same here. Absolutely no problems Nexus One 2.3.3, even in debug mode. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to an

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-15 Thread String
Sure, apps run slower when attached to the debugger, but that's hardly surprising given the overhead. I have noticed that one of my apps seems to slow down more than the others, which leads me to believe that certain operations are more affected than others. It's never been problematic enough f

[android-developers] Re: Android Debugger is DOG Slow

2011-04-14 Thread Zsolt Vasvari
My Nexus One 2.3.3 has NO speed issues with debuggiing. On Apr 15, 11:01 am, Eric wrote: > When I run my app in the debugger, via a USB cable, it is completely > and utterly unusably slow.  I have 2.3.3 installed on my NexusOne. > How does Google expect us to work with a complete crap environment