[android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Luigi Papino
I am in the same situation. There seems to be no solution to the problem. For me, if in the next few days I can not find a solution, I will not use more Google Play. It 'simply inconceivable. There should be a procedure for the recovery of the situation. On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:05:39 PM

Re: [android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Raghav Sood
This is a good thing. If Google allowed such a key recovery system, anybody could get your key easily and then make malicious apps that would over write your on the users system. It is not Google's fault that you were unable to maintain a backup of your key. Thanks On Aug 1, 2012 5:49 PM, Luigi

[android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread RichardC
Your key store holds YOUR private key (read about PKI) so only you have it. Google: - never had it - don't want it - can't recover something they never had in the first place. You should think about having basic backup/restore in place before starting development. On

[android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Luigi Papino
I don't want the recovery of the key. I want the recovery of the situation. There may always be a mistake. You can not make me lose thousands of customers for a key. I'm not saying there should be a simple procedure. But there must be a way to release an update of my application, including

Re: [android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Luigi Papino
I did not ask key restoration. I can also pay for somebody to fix the situation manually. I did not say that is fault of google. I say it's absurd to lose customers in this way. I did not even have a chance to speak with someone in the support. On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:26:31 PM UTC+2,

Re: [android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Mark Murphy
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Luigi Papino luigi.pap...@gmail.com wrote: I did not even have a chance to speak with someone in the support. Try: http://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/?hl=en -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com |

[android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread RichardC
Even if Google Play did allow you to upload your new apk signed with a different key. No Android device would allow the upgrade to happen because the old and new application(s) (even though they have the same name) are signed by different entities. To do what you are requesting, Google would

Re: [android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Luigi Papino
Thank you very much! On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 6:20:03 PM UTC+2, Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Luigi Papino luigi.pap...@gmail.com wrote: I did not even have a chance to speak with someone in the support. Try:

Re: [android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Mark Murphy
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:28 PM, RichardC richard.crit...@googlemail.com wrote: Best you can hope to do is to amend the description of your old application in the Play Store directing your users to the new application. There is some process by which ownership of apps move between companies, and

[android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Luigi Papino
Just warn the user must manually uninstall the application. Thank you for responding, but this discussion leads nowhere. The only ones to know if you can restore the situation, are those of the team Google Play. To me it is fine any solution. Just that users who have already paid, should not

Re: [android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread RichardC
If you sell/transfer an application and your buyer intents to take on (support) your existing customers then you also need to sell/transfer the private key that you signed it with. If transferring ownership of applications you have created is part of your business model then you need to have

Re: [android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Kristopher Micinski
If this is the case then just create a new version, and give refunds to buyers who bought your previous app. Practically, there is no way this is going to get resolved, it just doesn't work like that, kris On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Luigi Papino luigi.pap...@gmail.com wrote: Just warn

Re: [android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Luigi Papino
This is the the answer from Google Play Team: Hi Luigi, Thank you for your note. If you've lost your keystore you'll have to publish the app with a new package name and a new key. You should also update the description of the original app and unpublish it. Please note that users are allowed

Re: [android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Kristopher Micinski
What you said, is the way that I would go. kris On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Luigi Papino luigi.pap...@gmail.com wrote: This is the the answer from Google Play Team: Hi Luigi, Thank you for your note. If you've lost your keystore you'll have to publish the app with a new package name

Re: [android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread Mark Murphy
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Luigi Papino luigi.pap...@gmail.com wrote: The only idea that comes, is to create a new application that monitors the status validity of the license of the old app. Something like this: new = CheckLicense(newAppPackageName) old =

Re: [android-developers] Re: How to upload apk with new version, when previous key store is lost?

2012-08-01 Thread luigi.pap...@gmail.com
I haven't played with LVL, and I'm assuming that is what CheckLicense() is referring to. I'd be rather disturbed if App A can check on information about App B's license. It's conceivable that the LVL system will recognize that both are from the same author (by Google account) and allow it, I