Re: [android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-11 Thread Yuri Magrisso
Hi koala, In my non-expert opinion you have two options, none of which are easy, but both look quite feasible. The first is to take inspiration from libraries like SwingWT, which is a port of the Swing API on top of SWT. This is worth doing if you already have invested in a Swing desktop client.

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-05 Thread koala
Thanks Daniel Your response is more in line of what i was expecting... On Feb 4, 6:18 pm, Daniel Drozdzewski wrote: > Koala, > > Try this for > starters:http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4491720/why-android-is-built-on-a-... > > and follow various pointer that appear there (like the video from

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-04 Thread Streets Of Boston
nope, i don't think a web-page that loads a java-applet will be displayed on an Android browser. You'll probably get a warning/message/ text that the incorrect JRE is loaded. On Feb 4, 6:47 pm, Indicator Veritatis wrote: > Applets running under Android: but don't we already have that in the > bro

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-04 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Applets running under Android: but don't we already have that in the browser on every Android phone? That runs applets. What more could you want? On Feb 3, 10:56 pm, koala wrote: > Okay, seems that i don't know what i am talking about but you know > that i don't know what i am talking about. > >

Re: [android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-04 Thread Daniel Drozdzewski
Koala, Try this for starters: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4491720/why-android-is-built-on-a-vm-dalvik and follow various pointer that appear there (like the video from Google I/O 2008). It should shed some light on why there was a need to rewrite JVM for speed and small memory footprint.

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-04 Thread giangiammy
Hi guy, I'm just now looking at this problem: how to run a Java applet (j2se) on Android! Surely a phone is small, but now we have 10" pads running android, or netbook running android ... (the toshiba AC100 for example is a dual core ARM9 running at 1GHz). I do not think that the power is a prob

Re: [android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-04 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Yes, it would be really convenient if Android supported Java EE spec. It would also be really great if it supported all the other Java specs, like Java 3D, Swing, AWT, RMI... And .Net applications. And native Windows x86 applications (including 64 bit executables). And MacOS applications (inc

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-03 Thread koala
What about for tablet users? would that be such a nightmare too? So, If we have to develop an enterprise application are android devices so unable to deliver such? would it not be handy if android supported all Java SE functionality? including rmi, swing, etc? The fact that it supports it does

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-03 Thread koala
Why? Okay, how about running applets on the andorid browser? what's the forum to raise that? On Jan 19, 4:37 pm, viktor wrote: > I think you should change the forum. For example Spring, Java WEB > development but notAndroid. > > On 14 Січ, 16:16, koala wrote: > > > > > > > > > For god sake,

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-03 Thread koala
Okay, seems that i don't know what i am talking about but you know that i don't know what i am talking about. Now see if you know how to make me know what i am talking about too. But even if i don't know what i am talking about I guess i do know what I want to know Okay, how about running ap

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-03 Thread koala
How much bigger is OpenJDK / Harmony than the Android JRE? What is 'all the crap' in Java SE that you would never want to see on the Android? On Jan 22, 12:28 am, Brill Pappin wrote: > Yah, because I want that giant VM with all its crap on my phone. > I also want to fragment the platform even

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-03 Thread koala
Yes, that was my question, how far are we from running a lightweight linux kernel with support for OpenJDK / (or Harmony if that makes android developers happy) on mobile devices? On Jan 21, 9:43 am, gjs wrote: > Hi, > > It might raise the stakes/ire with the O company, but if itsopenJDK, > th

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-03 Thread koala
I didn't say a full j2ee stack, i said OpenJDK (the 'full Java SE stack'). And yes, in my case we have been asked to develop an enterprise desktop client that talks to remote EJBs. Our customers are asking for an Ipad Application, I thought android would be more open / portable, Yet it seems that

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-02-03 Thread koala
That comment does not help me On Jan 19, 4:37 pm, viktor wrote: > I think you should change the forum. For example Spring, Java WEB > development but notAndroid. > > On 14 Січ, 16:16, koala wrote: > > > > > > > > > For god sake, > > > how convenient would it be to haveOpenJDKrunning onandroid? >

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-01-21 Thread Brill Pappin
Yah, because I want that giant VM with all its crap on my phone. I also want to fragment the platform even further and give Oracle control over it. - Brill Pappin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, se

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-01-20 Thread gjs
Hi, It might raise the stakes/ire with the O company, but if its openJDK, that's alright. But then you might as well be running a full desktop OS on the phone. Phone's will be capable of this during 2011 and beyond, particularly with VM's. Regards On Jan 21, 4:41 am, Jake Basile wrote: > It w

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-01-20 Thread Jake Basile
It would be very convenient for developers, and a nightmare for phone users. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-01-20 Thread chris
> Imagine if we could run swing, rmi, if we could run all java code as > it is, we could run enterprise application clients. We could have > android apps running on the desktop and on the phone. Great idea. why think small ? I need a full J2EE stack to use EJB to manage distributed transactions a

[android-developers] Re: OpenJDK on Android

2011-01-19 Thread viktor
I think you should change the forum. For example Spring, Java WEB development but not Android. On 14 Січ, 16:16, koala wrote: > For god sake, > > how convenient would it be to have OpenJDK running on android? > > Imagine if we could run swing, rmi, if we could run all java code as > it is, we co