Re: [Anima] BRSKI over 802.11

2018-02-15 Thread Toerless Eckert
Thanks, Owen, inline On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 07:54:48PM +, Owen Friel (ofriel) wrote: > (some context - I've been talking internally to Max and Eliot about this > quite a bit) > > First, a high level summary of 802.11u-2011 (which is incorporated into > 802.11-2016) capabilities. > > STAs

Re: [Anima] BRSKI over 802.11

2018-02-15 Thread Michael Richardson
Owen, thanks for the extensive email... I actually read to the end. What's this legacy "DHCP" protocol? Does anyone still use it? :-) I thought IPv4 was an over-the-top service now.. :-) :-) It seems like you have most of an ID already there... perhaps you'd like to write something up... since

[Anima] request to consider adopting draft-richardson-anima-ace-constrained-voucher-03.txt

2018-02-15 Thread Michael Richardson
Peter, Panos and I have been working on this document along with some SID help from Michel Veillett. We'd like the ANIMA WG to consider adopting it. There are some SID issues that we hope to work out with the help of the "y...@ietf.org" list... they are minor technical issues that do not change

Re: [Anima] Shepherd review draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-09

2018-02-15 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 05:32:30PM +, Max Pritikin (pritikin) wrote: > Certificates are a data format for encoding public keys and associated > certifications (e.g. the CA signature) etc. I think this could reasonably be > called data needed to establish a cryptographic security association.

Re: [Anima] BRSKI over 802.11

2018-02-15 Thread Owen Friel (ofriel)
(some context - I've been talking internally to Max and Eliot about this quite a bit) First, a high level summary of 802.11u-2011 (which is incorporated into 802.11-2016) capabilities. STAs and APs advertise support for 802.11u by setting the Interworking bit in the Extended Capabilities IE,

Re: [Anima] Shepherd review draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-09

2018-02-15 Thread Max Pritikin (pritikin)
> On Feb 15, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 04:06:33PM +, Max Pritikin (pritikin) wrote: b) Key infrastructure >>> There is no definition/reference for this term. Please describe on first use and in terminology. Is

Re: [Anima] Shepherd review draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-09

2018-02-15 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 04:06:33PM +, Max Pritikin (pritikin) wrote: > >> b) Key infrastructure > > > >> There is no definition/reference for this term. Please describe on > >> first use and in terminology. Is there a difference > >> between "key infrastructure" and "keying material" ?

Re: [Anima] Shepherd review draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-09

2018-02-15 Thread Max Pritikin (pritikin)
> On Feb 14, 2018, at 7:45 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: > > > Toerless Eckert wrote: >> 1.2) Terminology: > >> a) vendor vs. manufacturer. > >> The document uses 48 times "vendor" and 13 times "manufacturer". Please >> revisit this: If there is a