On 06-May-22 05:37, Michael Richardson wrote:
Toerless Eckert wrote:
> Here is what i think, please reject points if you have arguments
against them,
> otherwise i'd assume you agree ;-):
> 1. "AN_join_registrar" and "AN_Proxy" where defined in RFC8995 for use
with ANI.
Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Needless to say, I like this:
>> And a small GRASP daemon using the same DTLS as BRSKI is equally simple
to develop
>> (i claim) as a proxy daemon. Certainly a completely different ballpark
than
>> trying to get network layer IP multicast
> Howev
Toerless Eckert wrote:
> Here is what i think, please reject points if you have arguments against
them,
> otherwise i'd assume you agree ;-):
> 1. "AN_join_registrar" and "AN_Proxy" where defined in RFC8995 for use
with ANI.
> To me that means those objectives indicate that by
Toerless Eckert wrote:
> Registrars need to discoverable anyhow for their IP address. ANd
> every announcement does include a UDP port number anyhow.
And the protocol which to use on that UDP port.
> And
> expecting that all stateful registrars operations can always be
> run
Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> I'm fixing it at:
>> https://github.com/anima-wg/constrained-join-proxy/pull/20
>> Brian, in RFC8995, we leave "objective-value" empty, while this document
>> wants to set it to "BRSKI_JP", and I don't think that does anything
useful.
> That's a d
Toerless,
Needless to say, I like this:
And a small GRASP daemon using the same DTLS as BRSKI is equally simple to
develop
(i claim) as a proxy daemon. Certainly a completely different ballpark than
trying to get network layer IP multicast
However, in fairness, the part of GRASP tha
On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 01:22:33PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
> I am saying that the existing GRASP M_FLOOD specified in RFC8995,
>
> and I'm saying that we'd have:
>$transport-proto /= IPPROTO_UDP ; ...
Agreed.
> GRASP DULL is easy.
> In some sense, for IoT networks, there is *only*
Peter, Michael *:
Wrt to seervice discovery in general: I am happy to help with the text,
but lets first agree on the functionality.
Here is what i think, please reject points if you have arguments against them,
otherwise i'd assume you agree ;-):
1. "AN_join_registrar" and "AN_Proxy" where defi
On 03-May-22 05:22, Michael Richardson wrote:
Toerless Eckert wrote:
> (1)
>> Yes, you are right, we need to have a new objective to announce.
>> I guess that we don't really think about the constrained-join-proxy
really
>> being used in an ACP context, but we really shoul
Toerless Eckert wrote:
> (1)
>> Yes, you are right, we need to have a new objective to announce.
>> I guess that we don't really think about the constrained-join-proxy
really
>> being used in an ACP context, but we really should that right.
> I don't think this is true. As
Changed accordingly.
Also objective value is used instead of objective name.
Peter
Michael Richardson schreef op 2022-04-29 18:07:
Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 26-Apr-22 19:02, Peter van der Stok wrote:
HI,
To add to the discussion, below the text that I adapted for Graps
discovery
in cont
Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 26-Apr-22 19:02, Peter van der Stok wrote:
>> HI,
>> To add to the discussion, below the text that I adapted for Graps
discovery
>> in contrsined-join-proxy draft.
>> Comments are welcome, Corrections are encouraged.
> Are you intending to d
On 26-Apr-22 19:02, Peter van der Stok wrote:
HI,
To add to the discussion, below the text that I adapted for Graps discovery in
contrsined-join-proxy draft.
Comments are welcome, Corrections are encouraged.
Are you intending to define a new GRASP objective "AN_REGISTRAR"? If so, you must be
On 27-Apr-22 09:01, Toerless Eckert wrote:
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 04:07:13PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
Toerless,
I am asking because if/where there are gaps in supported discovery mechanisms,
we might be able to suggest GRASP without ACP. Which would be somewhat of
another
draft..
Th
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 04:07:13PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Toerless,
>
> > I am asking because if/where there are gaps in supported discovery
> > mechanisms,
> > we might be able to suggest GRASP without ACP. Which would be somewhat of
> > another
> > draft..
>
> The only standards-tr
HI,
To add to the discussion, below the text that I adapted for Graps
discovery in contrsined-join-proxy draft.
Comments are welcome, Corrections are encouraged.
Peter
__
6.1. Join Proxy discovers Registrar
In
Toerless,
I am asking because if/where there are gaps in supported discovery mechanisms,
we might be able to suggest GRASP without ACP. Which would be somewhat of
another
draft..
The only standards-track requirement for that is that GRASP can run over a
secure
substrate. Been there, done tha
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 01:19:21PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
(1)
> Yes, you are right, we need to have a new objective to announce.
> I guess that we don't really think about the constrained-join-proxy really
> being used in an ACP context, but we really should that right.
I don't think t
Toerless Eckert wrote:
> This is insufficient. Section 4.3 only describes the GRASP objective
> for EST-TLS, which uses the objective-value "EST-TLS". For the
> constrained join proxy, you need to specify the objective to use a new
> appropriate objective. For example, you could s
Thanks Brian, inline
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 08:45:39AM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> If RFC8990 has a weakness, it is indeed that only the initial registration
> of a GRASP objective requires a specification and expert review. Personally
> I think this is a good thing, since it allows for fle
On 13-Apr-22 03:00, Toerless Eckert wrote:
Note: I am writing this as a problem against only the join-proxy draft, but i
think
there may also be text affected in constrained-voucher. I just have not checked
specifically which text.
draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy:
1. GRASP discovery
5
Note: I am writing this as a problem against only the join-proxy draft, but i
think
there may also be text affected in constrained-voucher. I just have not checked
specifically which text.
draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy:
1. GRASP discovery
514 6.1.2. GRASP discovery
516Th
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