Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [db-wg] [routing-wg] Solving the issue of rogue ROUTE objects in the RIPE Database

2015-11-11 Thread Randy Bush
> "Document everything one AS originates in a single database" is the > primary motivation here (so upstreams/peers can go to a single source > to build filters, and that single source must not be RADB). and why not? randy

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [db-wg] [routing-wg] Solving the issue of rogue ROUTE objects in the RIPE Database

2015-11-11 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:00:11PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > > "Document everything one AS originates in a single database" is the > > primary motivation here (so upstreams/peers can go to a single source > > to build filters, and that single source must not be RADB). > > and why not? RADB?

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [db-wg] [routing-wg] Solving the issue of rogue ROUTE objects in the RIPE Database

2015-11-11 Thread denis
Hi Sander On 11/11/2015 18:34, Sander Steffann wrote: Hi Tim, STEP 3: continiously check if the block is allocated in the foreign RIR database, if no longer, delete the route-object from RIPE's IRR db. We share concerns raised by Job. We believe this adds a lot of complexity to the implement

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [routing-wg] [db-wg] Solving the issue of rogue ROUTE objects in the RIPE Database

2015-11-11 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Tim, >> STEP 3: continiously check if the block is allocated in the foreign RIR >> database, if no longer, delete the route-object from RIPE's IRR db. > > We share concerns raised by Job. We believe this adds a lot of complexity to > the implementation, and introduces an unacceptable risk of

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [db-wg] [routing-wg] Solving the issue of rogue ROUTE objects in the RIPE Database

2015-11-11 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 02:52:36PM +0100, denis wrote: [..] > From what I understood from Gert and Randy's comments it is a user's > choice where to put a ROUTE object and there seem to be some reasons why > they sometimes choose to put it in the RIPE Database. "Document everything one AS

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [db-wg] [routing-wg] Solving the issue of rogue ROUTE objects in the RIPE Database

2015-11-11 Thread denis
HI Tim Thanks for the review. I have added a few comments below. cheers denis On 11/11/2015 10:41, Tim Bruijnzeels wrote: Dear working groups, At RIPE 70 the RIPE Database Working group asked the RIPE NCC to work together with Afrinic on an implementation proposal to migrate Afrinic route(6)

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WHOIS (AS204224)

2015-11-11 Thread Tim Bruijnzeels
Dear Denis, > On 04 Nov 2015, at 01:05, ripede...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > > It could be up and running in a month and we could now have more trusted > ROUTE objects. Please refrain from making estimates about the amount of work it would take for the RIPE NCC to implement things. We are happy to

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [routing-wg] [db-wg] Solving the issue of rogue ROUTE objects in the RIPE Database

2015-11-11 Thread Tim Bruijnzeels
Dear working groups, At RIPE 70 the RIPE Database Working group asked the RIPE NCC to work together with Afrinic on an implementation proposal to migrate Afrinic route(6) objects to the new Afrinic IRR as part of the IRR Homing project. We are planning to present a proposal at the Database Work