Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bulletproof servers causing mischief on the internet

2024-01-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Over a decade ago, a friend (then working at a large national telecom regulator) told me that industry self regulation works best, and that if the government was forced to step in and regulate, neither industry nor government would be happy with the results. Looks like that saying seems to be

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bulletproof servers causing mischief on the internet

2024-01-18 Thread Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg
Hi Hank Thanks for this: It's pure gold. I sometimes think this WG is held prisoner by a hand full of people, which are the ones that then whine in five years because the EU will put a stop at this on their terms. Here in Switzerland more and more anti abuse legislation is enacted because

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bulletproof servers causing mischief on the internet

2024-01-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
So we repeat the entire exercise with v6 or Jim fleming’s ipv9 if and when that comes out? Right --srs From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Tomás Leite de Castro via anti-abuse-wg Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 8:51:29 PM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re:

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bulletproof servers causing mischief on the internet

2024-01-18 Thread Tomás Leite de Castro via anti-abuse-wg
Hi, I just wanted to make a last comment on the previous email you sent. > The business model of many bulletproof companies is to ignore reports of > abuse, RIPE NCC does not seem to do much against this and criminals are not > afraid of retaliation from RIPE NCC towards them. and currently

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bulletproof servers causing mischief on the internet

2024-01-18 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 04:04:03AM +, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > If the database is filled with nonsensical information that anyone can hand > in and get themselves a large netblock there isn???t much point to the entire > exercise. This claim has, as usual, no basis. Gert

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bulletproof servers causing mischief on the internet

2024-01-18 Thread OSINTGuardian
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