Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-11-12 Thread Alex de Joode
​Good idea! Let's also use a generic name 'Spammer' for contributors to this list. ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 On Thu, 12-11-2020 13h 52min, PP wrote: > Is it possible to move a motion to rename this working group from Anti > Abuse WG to "The promotion of

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-11-12 Thread PP
Is it possible to move a motion to rename this working group from Anti Abuse WG to "The promotion of abuse working group"? Because this entire working group is a farce. On 12/11/2020 11:31 pm, Angela Dall'Ara wrote: Dear Jordi, The WGCC task, as defined in Section 4 of the PDP, is it to

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-11-12 Thread Angela Dall'Ara
Dear Jordi, The WGCC task, as defined in Section 4 of the PDP, is it to determine “whether to uphold or reject appeals”. In addition to that, in this first occurrence of an appeal being submitted, they chose to provide an extended explanation to you and the community, which is strictly

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-10-26 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Mon 26/Oct/2020 15:33:21 +0100 Alex de Joode wrote: Jordi et al, ​ I have to comment RIPE NCC and WGCC (and those that recused themselves). The appeals process was used, the outcome reaffirmed the original decision. It's clear the proposal was fatally flawed. May I suggest we do not waist

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-10-26 Thread Alex de Joode
Jordi et al,​ I have to comment RIPE NCC and WGCC (and those that recused themselves). The appeals process was used, the outcome reaffirmed the original decision. It's clear the proposal was fatally flawed. May I suggest we do not waist extra effort on this but accept the outcome and instead

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-10-26 Thread Petrit Hasani
Hi Jordi, The appeal was published on the RIPE NCC web page on the 13th of October. The Policy Development Process in RIPE states: "The appeal will also be published by the RIPE NCC at appropriate locations on the RIPE web site.” The RIPE NCC does not currently have an appeals policy web page

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-10-26 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
Hi Petrit, I can see it *now* published, however, *last week* (on 20th according to my browser history), I was working in another policy proposal and looking at this web page, and the text related to the appeal was not there. Could you confirm when it was published and announced? I fully

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-10-26 Thread Petrit Hasani
Hello Jordi, I would just like to comment on your first point. The appeal was published on the RIPE NCC website on the following links: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2019-04 https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/archived-policy-proposals/archive-policy-proposals/ We

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-10-26 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
There is also another point that I will like to rise and I just noticed, and this is very relevant not just because this appeal, but because the appeal process itself. 3 co-chairs have recused themselves. Is that meaning that all the discussion has been done in a different mailing list apart

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-10-26 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
Hi Mirjam, See my responses below, in-line as many clarifications are clearly required, not just because this appeal, but because there is a misjudgment of the PDP itself. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 26/10/20 9:07, "Mirjam Kuehne" escribió: Dear Jordi, Regarding the appeal

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-10-26 Thread Mirjam Kuehne
Dear Jordi, Regarding the appeal you submitted on 5 October to the RIPE Anti-Abuse Working Group mailing list, I would like to inform you about the decision of the RIPE Working Group Chairs Collective (according to the procedure as defined in ripe-710). The WG Chairs Collective (WGCC) decided

[anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-10-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
Hi all, This appeal (attached in PDF) follows the process outlined by ripe-710 (RIPE PDP). Regards, Jordi @jordipalet ** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message