Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-16 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Mikel Forcada m...@dlsi.ua.es writes: HI there. A quick quirk. I may go through the rest of the message later. Al 11/15/2011 12:16 AM, En/na Kevin Donnelly ha escrit: Re Fran's trivial stemming being OK for a tagger, but not for an MT system,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-16 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 16 Nov 2011 11:25, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer unham...@fsfe.org wrote: Jimmy O'Regan jore...@gmail.com writes: On 16 November 2011 05:56, Mikel Forcada m...@dlsi.ua.es wrote: On other matters, I had to search for tupp'orth (=twopence worth, apparently, in the sense of my [humble]

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-15 Thread Mikel Forcada
HI there. A quick quirk. I may go through the rest of the message later. Al 11/15/2011 12:16 AM, En/na Kevin Donnelly ha escrit: Re Fran's trivial stemming being OK for a tagger, but not for an MT system,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-14 Thread Kevin Donnelly
Hi It was so interesting to read the responses! I don't want to hog the list, so I'll just pick out 3 of the most engaging points in this post and then sidle back towards lurking mode :-) Re Fran's trivial stemming being OK for a tagger, but not for an MT system,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-14 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 14 November 2011 23:16, Kevin Donnelly ke...@dotmon.com wrote: Hi It was so interesting to read the responses!  I don't want to hog the list, so I'll just pick out 3 of the most engaging points in this post and then sidle back towards lurking mode :-) Re Fran's trivial stemming being OK

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-13 Thread Mikel Forcada
Dear Kevin, dear Apertiumers: as Francis said, thanks for such a long and detailed answer. It took me a while to read it and I think I won't comment all you said, especially since there are things I don't really understand well and I should ask. But here's my first thoughts after a first

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-13 Thread Francis Tyers
El dg 13 de 11 de 2011 a les 10:12 +0100, en/na Mikel Forcada va escriure: Dear Kevin, dear Apertiumers: [snip] I think this is an interesting discussion and that we should have some kind of rethinking apertium project or conference or un-conference. Many of these limitations, such as the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-13 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 13 November 2011 12:41, Jimmy O'Regan jore...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 November 2011 22:11, Francis Tyers fty...@prompsit.com wrote: El ds 12 de 11 de 2011 a les 21:15 +, en/na Kevin Donnelly va    e      p        lices/l        rexs n=n/s n=pl//r      /p    /e    e      p        

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-12 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Saturday 12 November 2011 Jimmy O'Regan said If you check back through the archives, you'll see that there has been discussion recently about an interface for adding words. A number of people have worked on it, and it's a more difficult task than you might expect. FWIW, I think the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-12 Thread Mikel Forcada
Al 11/12/2011 10:31 AM, En/na Kevin Donnelly ha escrit: On Saturday 12 November 2011 Jimmy O'Regan said If you check back through the archives, you'll see that there has been discussion recently about an interface for adding words. A number of people have worked on it, and it's a more

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-12 Thread Gıanluca
The point is that while working, for example, at tr-az, we realized that our lexicon (the only available under GPL blabla) sucked big time. Replacing misplaced stems (i have a personal statistic saying that ~30% are misplaced) is dull, time consuming and can be definitely

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-12 Thread Kevin Donnelly
Hi Mikel On Saturday 12 November 2011 Mikel Forcada said Al 11/12/2011 10:31 AM, En/na Kevin Donnelly ha escrit: FWIW, I think the fundamental problem is that the format of the dictionaries is non-optimal from a linguistic point of view. Kevin, it would be good to hear a bit more

[Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-11 Thread Gıanluca
Hi everybody! With the new google thing approaching I had an idea. We get many students (mostly for the GSOC) which are technically capable of performing what I find hard task, and we keep wasting their time with the boring and skill-less process of adding words to bidix. Now, considering that

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Dictionaries, coverage and other dull tasks

2011-11-11 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 12 November 2011 01:23, Gıanluca ggro...@mail.com wrote: Hi everybody! With the new google thing approaching I had an idea. We get many students (mostly for the GSOC) which are technically capable of performing what I find hard task, and we keep wasting their time with the boring and