Re: Apple-Crop: Time article (More on same)

2007-03-29 Thread Jon Clements
In further defense of Liberty, it is a cool-climate apple like McIntosh, hence does best where McIntosh grows and colors best. (Although I have seen some very nice Liberty from northern NJ.) Yes, it will be small unless thinned adequately but responds to BA applications during the thinning

RE: Apple-Crop: Pollinating bees

2007-03-29 Thread Arthur Harvey
There are a few of us small beekeepers who use no treatments on their hives. I have 6. It will be interesting to see if we, as a group, have the same degree of loss as the rest of the industry. One guy in Vermont has around 200 hives. Of course he does not move them around the country.

Apple-Crop: Colony Collapse Disorder

2007-03-29 Thread Peter W. Shearer
Penn State has a good site about Colony Collapse Disorder. You can hear about it by clicking on: http://podcasts.psu.edu/node/287 You can also read about what is being done and the current status of this disorder at: http://maarec.cas.psu.edu/ColonyCollapseDisorder.html On Mar 29, 2

RE: Apple-Crop: Pollinating bees

2007-03-29 Thread Kim Flottum
I have been a part of this group almost from the beginning, though only a listener, not a contributor. There is additional and updated information on this disorder on the Maarec site mentioned, and more press than believable has been published about the problem. There is additional information, and

Re: Apple-Crop: Pollinating bees

2007-03-29 Thread Arthur Harvey
This may not be helpful, but recently I came across a new book, The Cure for All Diseases. Quite a claim, right? Well, the author (a Canadian) sets forth the cause of all chronic disease as either pollution or parasites. The cure is to first locate the specific cause by means of its identified

Re: Apple-Crop: Pollinating bees

2007-03-29 Thread Kevin A. Iungerman
Con, Do you have the source citation your quoted material? Reading other source material, I wrote of this in our March Northeast Tree Fruit newsletter (March 2007, Vol. 11 No. 2. "COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER MAY IMPACT HIVE AVAILABILITY, PRICE") and encouraged regional growers here to check the

Re: Apple-Crop: Pollinating bees

2007-03-29 Thread dockw
This may not be helpful, but in the human population, when the immune system is overwhelmed by tiny amounts of multiple toxins the body's defenses give up and then we come down with all kinds of ailments...so the death certificate might read death was caused by infection, but the cause was lack

Re: Apple-Crop: Pollinating bees

2007-03-29 Thread Peter J. Jentsch
The CCD (Colony Collapse Disorder ) working group recently published a report of their finding entitled 'Fall Dwindle Disease: A preliminary report December 15, 2006'. It can be found at: http://maarec.cas.psu.edu/pressReleases/FallDwindleUpdate0107.pdf Although the group is looking into the s

Apple-Crop: Scaffolds 3/26

2007-03-29 Thread Art Agnello
A new issue of Scaffolds Fruit Newsletter for Mar. 26 has been posted at: http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/ent/scaffolds/2007/070326.html and contains the following items: INSECTS Climate change and insect pests HORTICULTURE Spring fertilizers ERRATUM Guthion/AZM on pears [Please note th

RE: Apple-Crop: Pollinating bees

2007-03-29 Thread Con.Traas
Hello Jim, I think that the pesticides that are most harmful to bees have been replaced by safer types over the past few years, and bee keepers are fairly aware of what pesticide kills look like. This seems to be something else. Con -Original Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net

RE: Apple-Crop: Pollinating bees

2007-03-29 Thread Nadean Summers
Pollinating beesmaybe the chemical sprays are catching up with us and the bees Jim F.NY state -Original Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Con.Traas Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:12 AM To: Apple-Crop Subj

Re: Apple-Crop: Time article (More on same)

2007-03-29 Thread Bill Shoemaker
Good comments Con. I think that true sustainability will be more akin to IPM than to the set of rules developed for organic. It will probably involve the use of pesticides that are not organically approved, particularly some of the new generation materials. It will probably involve genetic eng

Apple-Crop: Pollinating bees

2007-03-29 Thread Con.Traas
Has there been any comment among apple growers in the US on the continuing sharp decline in bee numbers? I read the following recently, and believe that a few parts of Europe are beginning to see localised colony collapses also. Since last November, the US has seen a decline in bee populations s

RE: Apple-Crop: Time article (More on same)

2007-03-29 Thread Con.Traas
Hello again Chris and all contributors, I hope that I did not come across as too negative about the potential of scab (or other pest or disease) resistant varieties. What I hoped to get across is that nature is not static, and that it is virtually inevitable that resistance will be broken down b