[apple-crop] Vertical Scaffold Spacing

2011-02-27 Thread Randy Steffens Jr
How much vertical distance do you generally employ to separate primary scaffold branches on semi-dwarf Apple trees trained to central leader? Various university publications don't agree on spacing. Cornell extension publication 112 (written 1972) says at least 8 inches vertically between each b

Re: [apple-crop] Vertical Scaffold Spacing

2011-02-27 Thread lee elliott
--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Randy Steffens Jr wrote: From: Randy Steffens Jr Subject: [apple-crop] Vertical Scaffold Spacing To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 6:10 AM How much vertical distance do you generally employ to separate primary scaffold branches on semi-

Re: [apple-crop] [Apple-crop] Apples from seedling trees

2011-02-27 Thread lee elliott
Thanks Randy,my original plan was to grow a seedling tree,take a scion and limb graft it.some of these limb grafts had outstanding apples but the seedling's apple's (in every case but one) looked the same but lacking in soluable solids,smaller, poor or off taste. My new seedling trees in the nur

Re: [apple-crop] [Apple-crop] Apples from seedling trees

2011-02-27 Thread Randy Steffens Jr
I'll be very interested to hear how breeding research progresses, Lee. We're painfully in need of a good HC substitute here in Middle TN. I'd be very interested to pay you for some scion wood once you release your new varieties for testing. Randy Steffens Jr Shepherd's Valley Orchards Middle

Re: [apple-crop] Vertical Scaffold Spacing

2011-02-27 Thread David Doud
It has been my experience that two scaffolds may originate at near the same height without choking the central leader - three originating at the same height will devigorate the leader eventually - the longer the tree lives, the more difference it makes - D On Feb 27, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Rand

Re: [apple-crop] Training goal as it relates to initial planting

2011-02-27 Thread David Doud
Rye - your picture shows a system that is highly regimented - excessively so for fruit production - if you want to do it to admire and enjoy, go ahead - be aware that many of these highly manipulated systems use Golden Delicious or some other variety with an agreeable growth habit - try to do th

Re: [apple-crop] Vertical Scaffold Spacing

2011-02-27 Thread Dave Rosenberger
Concerning the spacing discussion below, it is worth noting that fertilizer and pesticide costs are not insignificant in the overall cost of orchard management. One can make some adjustments in pesticide rates based on tree size and (with a smart sprayer) by not spraying gaps between trees. N

Re: [apple-crop] Vertical Scaffold Spacing

2011-02-27 Thread Kim Flottum
Hello, I am the editor of a beekeeping magazine, and have following your discussion group for quite a long time, to see what is important to you, and how it may affect beekeepers...who, as you are aware also double as pollinators each spring. My question is have these high density orchards require

Re: [apple-crop] Fwd: Re: Vertical Scaffold Spacing

2011-02-27 Thread Dave Rosenberger
Hi, George -- I probably am too gullible, and Terence is quite convincing, especially when you hear him 6 or 8 times a year at different fruit schools! However, a consultant that I respect told me last fall that some of the better NY growers were at or close to 2000 bushels/A on a repeating