Re: [aqm] analysis paper on PIE...

2014-11-12 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Scheffenegger, Richard wrote: > Hi Martin, > > I believe these papers may qualify that requirement: > > http://ipv6.cablelabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/DOCSIS-AQM_May2014.pdf This documents the docsis-pie implementation which has rather a few basic improvemen

Re: [aqm] draft-hoeiland-joergensen-aqm-fq-codel

2014-11-12 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
"Scheffenegger, Richard" writes: > * adopt the document draft-hoeiland-joergensen-aqm-fq-codel-01 as an > AQM working group item, heading towards publication as informational. Well I'm obviously in favour ;) Still being fairly new to this process, however, could someone please explain to me the

[aqm] draft-hoeiland-joergensen-aqm-fq-codel

2014-11-12 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi, The chairs would like to confirm that the AQM WG community agrees to * adopt the document draft-hoeiland-joergensen-aqm-fq-codel-01 as an AQM working group item, heading towards publication as informational. Richard Scheffenegger > -Original Message- > From: aqm [mailto:aqm-bou

Re: [aqm] analysis paper on PIE...

2014-11-12 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
"Scheffenegger, Richard" writes: > I believe these papers may qualify that requirement: I'll add to that the results I presented yesterday in ICCRG: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-iccrg-4.pdf However, I don't believe there has been any *theoretical* analysis of either alg

Re: [aqm] analysis paper on PIE...

2014-11-12 Thread Martin Stiemerling
Am 12.11.14 um 14:03 schrieb Scheffenegger, Richard: Hi Martin, I believe these papers may qualify that requirement: http://ipv6.cablelabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/DOCSIS-AQM_May2014.pdf http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=6925768 https://www.duo.uio.no/handle/10852

Re: [aqm] analysis paper on PIE...

2014-11-12 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi Martin, I believe these papers may qualify that requirement: http://ipv6.cablelabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/DOCSIS-AQM_May2014.pdf http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=6925768 https://www.duo.uio.no/handle/10852/37381 tl;dr - both pie and codel camps did some independent

Re: [aqm] analysis paper on PIE...

2014-11-12 Thread Martin Stiemerling
[writing not as AD, but as random IETF participant] Sorry for this blunt question: Is there any other analysis made by an independent source, i.e., where not the PIE authors are running an analysis of PIE? Thanks, Martin Am 10.11.14 um 21:15 schrieb Rong Pan (ropan): Please see our analy

Re: [aqm] Language review on draft-ietf-aqm-pie

2014-11-12 Thread Joe Touch
On 11/12/2014 1:39 PM, Fred Baker (fred) wrote: >> Abstract >> >>Bufferbloat is a phenomenon where excess buffers in the network cause >>high latency and jitter. > > How about: Buffer bloat is a phenomenon in which transports such as > TCP using loss-based or mark-based congestion contro

[aqm] Language review on draft-ietf-aqm-pie

2014-11-12 Thread Fred Baker (fred)
> Abstract > >Bufferbloat is a phenomenon where excess buffers in the network cause >high latency and jitter. How about: Buffer bloat is a phenomenon in which transports such as TCP using loss-based or mark-based congestion control procedures create excessive buffer occupancy, resulting