On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 00:14:17 +0300, Cristian Burneci wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> Is 'this' EXACTLY what Joerg intended for me to see?
>> http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/test-pdf.gif
>> It 'is' what I saw when I decoded test.pdf

> I don't know what test.pdf is about and how it got into arachne

> As for western.pdf, yes, it is what they intended you to see
> The information in that document is unaltered (most important). Even the
> layout is unaltered. Observe that the title occupies the same amount of
> space and has the same position on the page, no matter the font it is
> written with. This ensures that the document layout remains the same, even
> if the Helvetica Compressed font is not available.

> So, you dont't loose anything of what they intended to show you.

> To push things further try and experience with this:
> http://users.pcnet.ro/dhptech/download/west_new.pdf

> The document was created in the usual way

> Cristian Burneci

Thank you for providing further proof that you were mistaken when
you made the claim of:
"In this case I can be absolutely sure
that my recipient can view or print them exactly the way I intended to."

Since you converted the first page of western.pdf to a format which I
could not view using either GS for DOS v5.10 or Acrobat for DOS v1.0

I do not believe that either of these views is "exactly as intended".
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/wn-ara.gif
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/wn-ad-01.gif
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/wn-ad-02.gif
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/wn-ad-03.gif

So, I fired-up W95 and was able to view west_new.pdf using Acrobat v4.0
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/wn-aw-v4.gif
(Is this viewed exactly as intended)?
(               ^^^^^^^)

I then printed west_new.pdf (with 4 possible printing options), and
photographed the 4 pages of paper in pairs.
The 2 photos are now stitched together into 1 image so that all 4 pages
can be compared side-by-side.
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/wn-aw-pr.jpg
(sorry for the poor quality, it's the best this old QV-100 could do) :(

>From left to right the print options are:
Fit to page -   checked / Print as image - unchecked
Fit to page -   checked / Print as image - checked
Fit to page - unchecked / Print as image - unchecked
Fit to page - unchecked / Print as image - checked

Since all 4 are different from one another.
(not one of them is EXACTLY the same as any of the others).....
Only one of these (if any), can possibly be "printed exactly as intended".

Which one of them is exact?

To sum-it-all-up.

There exists only one way to be "absolutely sure" that the recipient
will receive "exactly" what was intended.

Print the item yourself and then snail-mail that piece of paper to them.
In-fact, even that method is not "absolutely sure".
(the piece of paper could get lost or damaged in the mail)

So, to be absolutely sure:
You must "hand deliver" that piece of paper directly to the recipient and
stay there while they look at it.

NOW you are ABSOLUTELY SURE that they are seeing EXACTLY what you intended
them to see.

If you'de like them.
I can snail-mail the 4 sheets of paper to you.<VBG>
________

I know, I know....

I've carried this on WAY TOO FAR.
(I'll shut up now)

-- 
 Glenn
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