Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-12 Thread Ronald Bleckendorf
Hi Sam! 11 Jan 2003, "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Bush invented the Department of homeland security (also known as >> "Big Brother") 17 people working there, budget of over 35 >> billion $/year !! SE> Homeland Security is a new bureaucratic catch all that reassigns many

Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-12 Thread Ronald Bleckendorf
Hi Samuel! 11 Jan 2003, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [dhs] >> And nobody cares !!! SH> The so-called Big Brother department was created in order to SH> consolidate the functions of several intelligence and law enforcement SH> agencies into one big super-agency. Yes ... but

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-12 Thread Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:13:34 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote: >>> Boy ... I can't say how happy I am that I had the luck of not being >>> born in the US ! > SE> Perhaps this is easier for your conscience. I'm proud to be an > SE> American, proud of our American democra

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-12 Thread Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:42:32 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote: >>> And another highly sick part is the `Cyber Security Enhancement Act' >>> (CSEA) a law that IMO clearly violates international Law, and UN >>> law. > SH> I have never heard of the "Cyber Security Enhancemen

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-11 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:20:28 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote: > Hi Samuel! > 09 Jan 2003, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SH> How can one copyright a cartridge? > Don't ask me ... ask lexmark > SH> Unless the container and its components have some uni

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-11 Thread John Sparks
rk in its printers. " Hope its not illegal to copy text from a web site! John - Original Message - From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-11 Thread Richard Menedetter
Hi Samuel! 09 Jan 2003, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SH> How can one copyright a cartridge? Don't ask me ... ask lexmark SH> Unless the container and its components have some unique features and SH> characteristics and component materials which make it quite unlike SH> anyt

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-10 Thread Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ
ECTED]> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 4:55 AM > Subject: Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA >> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:25:52 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard > Menedetter) wrote: > >> > Lexmark sued an ink cartrdige refiller for violating the DMCA. >

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-10 Thread John Sparks
- Original Message - From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arachne List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 4:55 AM Subject: Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA > On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:25:52 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PR

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-09 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:25:52 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote: > Hi > http://heise.de/newsticker/data/tig-09.01.03-000/ > (german) > Lexmark sued an ink cartrdige refiller for violating the DMCA. > The ink cartrdige is "copyrighted", and the making of lexmark cartridges

Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-09 Thread Richard Menedetter
Hi http://heise.de/newsticker/data/tig-09.01.03-000/ (german) Lexmark sued an ink cartrdige refiller for violating the DMCA. The ink cartrdige is "copyrighted", and the making of lexmark cartridges is illegal accoring to 1201 of the DMCA. 1201 is the evasion of copyright protection schemes. bef

Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-08 Thread Roger Turk
In this morning's Arizona Daily Star, an Associated Press article, dateline, Oslo, Norway, reported: "... a Norwegian court acquitted a teen-ager of digital-burglary charges for creating and circulating online a program that cracks the security codes on DVDs. ... Head Judge Irene Sogn said pe

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-07 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:24:42 -0500 (EST), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> > Heh, heh. How much you wanna bet they'll disagree with >> > you? When something is done in the name of "public safety" >> > or some such, it's fine, but when a private

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-06 Thread Glenn McCorkle
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:24:42 -0500 (EST), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It doesn't matter whether you're talking NSA decrypting > suspected terrorists' emails or FBI going through garbage. > It's a "law enforcement tool" for them, but an "invasion of > privacy" or "criminal act" if private c

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-06 Thread Sam Ewalt
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:24:42 -0500 (EST), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It doesn't matter whether you're talking NSA decrypting > suspected terrorists' emails or FBI going through garbage. > It's a "law enforcement tool" for them, but an "invasion of > privacy" or "criminal act" if private cit

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-06 Thread Steve
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > > Heh, heh. How much you wanna bet they'll disagree with > > you? When something is done in the name of "public safety" > > or some such, it's fine, but when a private citizen does the > > same thing, it's... well, illegal. > > > > Case in point

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-05 Thread Sam Ewalt
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 07:31:47 + (UTC), Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> http://www.wweek.com/flatfiles/News3485.lasso > I went to the URL. I did not find there any stories about people > decrypting stuff. The URL was mainly about allegedly unreasonable > police searches of some people's garbage c

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-04 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Steve wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > > > It cannot possibly be illegal to decrypt stuff. NSA and other > > intelligence organizations do it all the time as a normal activity > > of their major functions. If they have the right to decrypt stuff, > > th

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-04 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Steve wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > > > It cannot possibly be illegal to decrypt stuff. NSA and other > > intelligence organizations do it all the time as a normal activity > > of their major functions. If they have the right to decrypt stuff, > > t

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-04 Thread Thomas Mueller
To Sam Heywood, Roger Turk and possibly others, I'm surprised you didn't hear of DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) until recently. It's not all that new, was passed and signed under Bill Clinton's presidency. FBI arrested a Russian, Dmitri Sklaryov, and the government pressed charges again

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-04 Thread Steve
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > It cannot possibly be illegal to decrypt stuff. NSA and other > intelligence organizations do it all the time as a normal activity > of their major functions. If they have the right to decrypt stuff, > then so does everyone else. Heh, heh. How m

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-04 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:44:30 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote: > Hi Roger! > 03 Jan 2003, Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RT> I went to the U. S. Senate web site and did a search > RT> for DMCA and came up with HR5522, (House of Representatives bill > RT> number

Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-04 Thread Richard Menedetter
Hi Roger! 03 Jan 2003, Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RT> I went to the U. S. Senate web site and did a search RT> for DMCA and came up with HR5522, (House of Representatives bill RT> number 5522) which was introduced in October, 2002 and is now assigned RT> to the courts subcommittee

Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-03 Thread Roger Turk
Hi Ricsi, I went to the U. S. Senate web site and did a search for DMCA and came up with HR5522, (House of Representatives bill number 5522) which was introduced in October, 2002 and is now assigned to the courts subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee which is currently holding hearing

Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-03 Thread Richard Menedetter
Hi Roger! 02 Jan 2003, Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RT> What is DMCA and what is it supposed to do? digital millenium copyright act a law that was passed, which among other things forbades circumventing DRM (digital rights management) measures. The porblem is that it is s extremely

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-02 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Steve wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > > > > -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.44 > > There seems to be a discrepancy here. Your message id > says you're using version 4.33. > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Compare that to the message ID

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-02 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Richard Menedetter wrote: > Hi Samuel! > > 02 Jan 2003, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> on the paper it does not stifle competition, because everybody can > >> (theoretically) develop TCPA compliant software or hardware. > SH> If someone develops "ope

Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-02 Thread Roger Turk
Hi Ricsi, I have found your posts on this topic interesting. You are an intelligent person and familiar with the way American government works. Your passion on this subject, which I am very ignorant about, prompts me to ask you some questions: What is DMCA and what is it supposed to do? Do

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-02 Thread Steve
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.44 There seems to be a discrepancy here. Your message id says you're using version 4.33. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Compare that to the message ID on this e-mail, for instance. -- Steve Ackman

Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-02 Thread Richard Menedetter
Hi Samuel! 02 Jan 2003, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But again ... Americans don't seem to care. SH> The reason why industrial plants in Japan have modern anti-pollution SH> technology is that they were built with money given to them by the SH> US so that they could rebui

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-02 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Richard Menedetter wrote: > Hi sheywood! > > 02 Jan 2003, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> SH> It is believed that the law will be passed and that even > >> SH> President Bush will sign his approval of it. > >> Sam ... I really like your sense of humour !!! > >> Have litte

Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-02 Thread Richard Menedetter
Hi sheywood! 02 Jan 2003, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> SH> It is believed that the law will be passed and that even >> SH> President Bush will sign his approval of it. >> Sam ... I really like your sense of humour !!! >> Have litterally been laughing out loud for many minutes ... >> that EV

Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA

2003-01-02 Thread sheywood
On 30 Dec 2002 12:16:43 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote: >Hi Samuel! >23 Dec 2002, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SH> It is believed that the law will be passed and that even President > SH> Bush will sign his approval of it. > Sam ... I really like your sens