[arch] patchs

2005-12-05 Thread Benoit Chesneau
Hi, Just a talk. But it seems there are more and more patchs in pkgbuilds and this now very difficult to check packages or such things like customize a package for specific needs. At least if patchs would be documented it would be usefull. Anyway I thought that one principle of Arch Linux was simp

Re: [arch] Fwd: Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread Khashayar Naderehvandi
I'm having this same symptom with udev-076-4. Device nodes aren't created when inserting USB-disk. regards, /K. --- Tobias Powalowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 02:19 schrieb JP > Fielding: > > before i post a bug, i was wondering if anyone > else was having issu

Re: [arch] Fwd: Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 02:19 schrieb JP Fielding: > before i post a bug, i was wondering if anyone else was having issues > mounting any usb devices after the latest and greatest from testing? > i see the devices plugged in in dmesg, but can't find anything under > dev to mount it from. > >

[arch] mutt's pacman and crux prt-get

2005-12-05 Thread Eric Dan
i know i can't compare the two really, but one cool feature prt-get has that pacman doesn't is the "deptree" option. it lists dependencies in a nice, easy to view tree for the package to be installed. -- --Eric Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] UCLA ID#103297286|Linux 2.6.14-ck6-ARCH _

[arch] Fwd: Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread JP Fielding
before i post a bug, i was wondering if anyone else was having issues mounting any usb devices after the latest and greatest from testing? i see the devices plugged in in dmesg, but can't find anything under dev to mount it from. thanks, jp On 12/5/05, Tobias Powalowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

[arch] Recompile and bugs?

2005-12-05 Thread Magnus Therning
I've just been bitten by an updated wvstreams. The latest version breaks wvdial. I suspect a simple recompile ov wvdial against the newer wvstreams would solve it. Being new to Arch I'm wondering if this should be reported as a bug? /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4)

Re: [arch] Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Hi hotplug is still there for non udev systems, the rest is now done by udev + hwdetect so no need for hotplug anymore, also it stops the new udev.rules to work if it would be installed. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org [EMAIL PRO

Re: [arch] Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread Thomas Bächler
Attila schrieb: >>Hotplug is most likely not required here. > Nice to hear. I looked at the scripts, seems like they do not really do much. > Thanks for this information that clears it a little bit. But if hotplug will > survive what is the reason that udev from testing conflicts now with hotplug

Re: [arch] Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread Attila
On Montag, 5. Dezember 2005 18:35 Aaron Griffin wrote: >> I have an Epson 3170 USB Scanner and i use their driver including the iscan >> scan utility (www.avasys.jp/english/index_e.html). This gtk1 application >> includes two files (iscan-device and iscan.usermap) in /etc/hotplug/usb. > > Hotplug

[arch] Missing GnuCash

2005-12-05 Thread Magnus Therning
Is someone monitoring the development of a GTK2-version of GnuCash? Just saw their web page mentioning that a pre-release should be out in December. I'd be more than happy to help iron out any issues with an Arch package for it :-) /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4)

Re: [arch] Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread Aaron Griffin
On 12/5/05, Attila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Montag, 5. Dezember 2005 15:16 Thomas Bächler wrote: > > > hotplug cared about firmware loading and stuff, but with the new > > version, udev handles all this and therefore obsoletes hotplug. > > I have an Epson 3170 USB Scanner and i use their dri

Re: [arch] Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread Attila
On Montag, 5. Dezember 2005 15:16 Thomas Bächler wrote: > hotplug cared about firmware loading and stuff, but with the new > version, udev handles all this and therefore obsoletes hotplug. I have an Epson 3170 USB Scanner and i use their driver including the iscan scan utility (www.avasys.jp/engl

Re: [arch] strange whatis behaviour

2005-12-05 Thread Vinay Shastry
heh or just edit the lines 68, 69 in /usr/sbin/makewhatis On 12/5/05, Dimitrios Apostolou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Magnus Therning wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 12:42:40AM +0100, Jan Fader wrote: > > > >>Hello archlinux-user > >> > >>Am Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 01:13:13AM +0200, hat Dimitrios

Re: [arch] initscripts consistency

2005-12-05 Thread Aaron Griffin
On 12/5/05, Magnus Therning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should I bug report? I would say no, as the previous message was from one of the developers, so obviously, they know. - phrak ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mai

Re: [arch] Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread Thomas Bächler
James Rayner schrieb: > On Archie, I think it was version 0.4.3 or so, we chmod -x'ed hotplug, > figuring we had hwd to to detection. It broke a *lot* of drivers. Any > drivers that needed firmware to be loaded from userspace, eg many > wireless drivers (prism, ipw2x00), as well as many that didnt,

Re: [arch] Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread Dale Blount
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 00:35 +1100, James Rayner wrote: > On 12/5/05, Jan de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, that's correct. Hotplug is obsolete with newer versions of udev. > > The only use for hotplug nowadays is the coldplugging at bootup, which > > we can use hwdetect or hwd for now

Re: [arch] Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread James Rayner
On 12/5/05, Jan de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, that's correct. Hotplug is obsolete with newer versions of udev. > The only use for hotplug nowadays is the coldplugging at bootup, which > we can use hwdetect or hwd for now. You're very wrong there. On Archie, I think it was version 0.

Re: [arch] Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 13:32 +0100, Roberto Braga wrote: > Latest testing release of udev (076-4) conflicts with hot plug, is that > correct?? > > :: udev conflicts with hotplug. Remove hotplug? [Y/n] y > > > Roberto > > ___ > arch mailing list > arch

[arch] Latest testing udev conflicts with hotplug

2005-12-05 Thread Roberto Braga
Latest testing release of udev (076-4) conflicts with hot plug, is that correct?? :: udev conflicts with hotplug. Remove hotplug? [Y/n] y Roberto ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch

Re: [arch] strange whatis behaviour

2005-12-05 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
Magnus Therning wrote: > On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 12:42:40AM +0100, Jan Fader wrote: > >>Hello archlinux-user >> >>Am Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 01:13:13AM +0200, hat Dimitrios Apostolou geschrieben: >> >>>I currently see this very strange behaviour on two different archlinux >>>systems. When I run what

Re: [arch] arch live cd 0.4.5

2005-12-05 Thread Fabian Braennstroem
Hi Tom, thanks! Somehow, I couldn't find it using google... Greetings! Fabian * On 02 Dec 2005 * Tom K wrote: > Fabian Braennstroem wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I have trouble to find the live-cd iso version 0.4.5 :-( > > > >Does anyone know where I can find it? I had the same problem > >with versio

Re: [arch] initscripts consistency

2005-12-05 Thread Magnus Therning
On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 11:17:20PM +0100, Jan de Groot wrote: >On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 22:02 +, Magnus Therning wrote: >> I was looking quickly at the scripts in /etc/rc.d/ the other day and >> found >> some inconsistencies: >> >> /etc/rc.d/fam contains the following lines: >> >> if [ ! -f

Re: [arch] strange whatis behaviour

2005-12-05 Thread Magnus Therning
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 12:42:40AM +0100, Jan Fader wrote: >Hello archlinux-user > >Am Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 01:13:13AM +0200, hat Dimitrios Apostolou geschrieben: >> I currently see this very strange behaviour on two different archlinux >> systems. When I run whatis or apropos, nomatter what the a