[arch-dev-public] nouveau upgrade failed

2009-12-06 Thread Andreas Radke
Nouveau upgrade path was broken for me. It printed out to the screen something like "module 'nouveau' not found" while building the new initrd. It's not in the pacman.log. I'm using early kms mode. This probably happens because the new nouveau module is not yet present when the kernel is updat

Re: [arch-dev-public] boost-1.41.0 rebuild

2009-12-06 Thread Allan McRae
Ionut Biru wrote: On 11/27/2009 01:01 AM, Allan McRae wrote: Ionut Biru wrote: Hi all, I just put up an internal TODO list for boot update for extra/community. I want to do that after heimdal is moved in core. What do you think about that? Sounds fine. It is good to see that boost has sona

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Allan McRae
Paul Mattal wrote: I should have another fast x86_64 build box at my disposal soon. My laptop is still running i686, which I sometimes still need for some things. Can I switch *just* to the x86_64 kernel but leave the rest i686? Then I could use it to build both. This somehow seems like a bad

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Paul Mattal
Allan McRae wrote: Paul Mattal wrote: Giovanni Scafora wrote: 2009/12/6, Allan McRae : It is as simple as mkarchroot to make the chroot and makechrootpkg to build the package (providing the path to the chroot as an arguement). Making a chroot for the opposite architecture is slightly more

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Giovanni Scafora
2009/12/6, Eric Bélanger : > I have an helper script to manage my many chroots (testing, > non-testing, i686, x86_64). It's somewhat trivial but I could post it > if someone's interested. I'm interested, please post it! -- Arch Linux Developer http://www.archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.it

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > Paul Mattal wrote: >> >> Giovanni Scafora wrote: >>> >>> 2009/12/6, Allan McRae :  It is as simple as mkarchroot to make the chroot and makechrootpkg to build the package (providing the path to the chroot as an arguement). >>

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Allan McRae
Paul Mattal wrote: Giovanni Scafora wrote: 2009/12/6, Allan McRae : It is as simple as mkarchroot to make the chroot and makechrootpkg to build the package (providing the path to the chroot as an arguement). Making a chroot for the opposite architecture is slightly more difficult, but I c

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Giovanni Scafora
2009/12/6, Paul Mattal : > Then I should decide-- if I have i686 and x86_64 boxes, is it better to do > all my builds on 1 machine, or on separate boxes? Can I build i686 on > x86_64? Can I build x86_64 on i686? If I'm going to set all this up, I'm > probably going to set it up on several machines

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Paul Mattal
Giovanni Scafora wrote: 2009/12/6, Allan McRae : It is as simple as mkarchroot to make the chroot and makechrootpkg to build the package (providing the path to the chroot as an arguement). Making a chroot for the opposite architecture is slightly more difficult, but I can provide patches if n

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 19:18, Allan McRae wrote: > Seriously? A chroot takes ~600MB.  At build time, even for the most dep > heavy application, I doubt you will go much beyond 1GB plus space for the > build files.  Say 1.5GB for most packages. That's true, but I frequently don't have that much spa

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Giovanni Scafora
2009/12/6, Allan McRae : > It is as simple as mkarchroot to make the chroot and makechrootpkg to build > the package (providing the path to the chroot as an arguement). > > Making a chroot for the opposite architecture is slightly more difficult, > but I can provide patches if needed. mkarchroot

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Allan McRae
Daenyth Blank wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 17:53, Allan McRae wrote: There is _no_ excuse not to use them. I don't have enough hard drive space to create a build chroot. That being said, I try to use namcap and also try to resolve any bug reports within the same day it's assigned. Most of t

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Allan McRae
Paul Mattal wrote: Allan McRae wrote: The tools are very simple to use and are described in the wiki (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Building_in_a_Clean_Chroot). There is _no_ excuse not to use them. The are minor changes needed for doing i686 builds on x86_64 and vise ver

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Paul Mattal
Allan McRae wrote: The tools are very simple to use and are described in the wiki (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Building_in_a_Clean_Chroot). There is _no_ excuse not to use them. The are minor changes needed for doing i686 builds on x86_64 and vise versa, but there are pl

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Allan McRae
Andrea Scarpino wrote: Don't start a flame against me cause I think I am one of the few people which ever use ours development tools. This was not directed at you only, which is why I never named you in the original email. You just happened to be the latest example of many... Allan

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Andrea Scarpino
2009/12/7 Giovanni Scafora : > I agree with Allan, all of us must always use ours development tools > and we must building in a clean chroot. I also am agree and I am peeved as you when I read avoidable (or stupid) bug reports. -- Andrea `bash` Scarpino Arch Linux Developer

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Giovanni Scafora
2009/12/6, Andrea Scarpino : > Don't start a flame against me cause I think I am one of the few > people which ever use ours development tools. Please Andrea, don't get me wrong, this is not a flame against you. I agree with Allan, all of us must always use ours development tools and we must bui

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On 07/12/2009, Giovanni Scafora wrote: > 2009/12/6, Allan McRae : >> So, we need a creative punishment for those that causes bugs by not >> building in a clean chroot. It is too early in the morning for me to be >> creative so I am struggling to come up with ideas besides beatings and >> removal

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 17:53, Allan McRae wrote: >  There is _no_ excuse not to use them. I don't have enough hard drive space to create a build chroot. That being said, I try to use namcap and also try to resolve any bug reports within the same day it's assigned. Most of the time I don't get any

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Giovanni Scafora
2009/12/6, Allan McRae : > So, we need a creative punishment for those that causes bugs by not > building in a clean chroot. It is too early in the morning for me to be > creative so I am struggling to come up with ideas besides beatings and > removal of commit privileges. Any better ideas? I n

Re: [arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > Hi, > > We have been through this many times...  you should always build in a clean > chroot.  But there are continuously bugs about packages linking to non-deps. >  We should never have such bugs. > > e.g. (FS#17409) > >> readelf -d /usr/bin/mp

[arch-dev-public] Punishment needed for not building in a chroot

2009-12-06 Thread Allan McRae
Hi, We have been through this many times... you should always build in a clean chroot. But there are continuously bugs about packages linking to non-deps. We should never have such bugs. e.g. (FS#17409) > readelf -d /usr/bin/mpd ... 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library:

Re: [arch-dev-public] radeon (X200m/RS480) kernel 2.6.32-1

2009-12-06 Thread Thomas Bächler
Andreas Radke schrieb: 1) as posted some weeks ago: early KMS mode is broken for me. mkinitcpio fails to load the firmware though the firmware hook is enabled and is included in the image. last line I see is: platform radeon_cp.0: firmware: requesting radeon/R300_cp.bin Okay, mkinitcpio does a

[arch-dev-public] radeon (X200m/RS480) kernel 2.6.32-1

2009-12-06 Thread Andreas Radke
1) as posted some weeks ago: early KMS mode is broken for me. mkinitcpio fails to load the firmware though the firmware hook is enabled and is included in the image. last line I see is: platform radeon_cp.0: firmware: requesting radeon/R300_cp.bin then it stops working. CTRL+ALT+DEL is working so

Re: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] gpm-1.20.6-4

2009-12-06 Thread Roman Kyrylych
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 13:28, Roman Kyrylych wrote: > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 07:24, Eric Bélanger wrote: >> Please test and signoff gpm-1.20.6-5 in testing.  The gpm.sh profile >> now checks if gpm is running before running disable-paste. > > Sing off x86_64. > > However, the check is ineffective

Re: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] gpm-1.20.6-4

2009-12-06 Thread Roman Kyrylych
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 07:24, Eric Bélanger wrote: > Please test and signoff gpm-1.20.6-5 in testing.  The gpm.sh profile > now checks if gpm is running before running disable-paste. Sing off x86_64. However, the check is ineffective: it is done per tty, but it is enough to do this once and then

Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-general] kernel 2.6.32-1

2009-12-06 Thread Thomas Bächler
Eric Bélanger schrieb: - changed intel kms enabled by default I don't know if it's because the kms-enabled kernel or the new xorg packages, but the intel drivers are working again on my i686 with 855GM Intel graphics. Xv support is not working but it's still much better than the vesa drivers