Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving repos to nymeria

2012-09-16 Thread Allan McRae
On 16/09/12 15:59, Gaetan Bisson wrote: (it's by Florian P, and of course I trust him) Where there goes the point of failure right there! Remember there is also the files.db which is ~10x the size. I guess we should sign that too? Allan

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving repos to nymeria

2012-09-16 Thread Jan Steffens
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org wrote: Do we really need remote signing for the DB, given that each of us already downloads the DB when upgrading, most likely several times a day? I do not think downloading it a couple more times when pushing packages will

Re: [arch-dev-public] multilib

2012-09-16 Thread Bartłomiej Piotrowski
On 09/12/2012 03:01 PM, Alexander Rødseth wrote: Can I have access to [multilib] so I can remove chuck? (and possibly make other useful changes to multilib in the future). I've the same request. I want to bring to [multilib] lib32-fmodex and some other dependencies used by games without x86_64

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving repos to nymeria

2012-09-16 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 16.09.2012 08:34, schrieb Jan Steffens: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org wrote: Do we really need remote signing for the DB, given that each of us already downloads the DB when upgrading, most likely several times a day? I do not think downloading it a

[arch-dev-public] Signoff report for [testing]

2012-09-16 Thread Arch Website Notification
=== Signoff report for [testing] === https://www.archlinux.org/packages/signoffs/ There are currently: * 9 new packages in last 24 hours * 0 known bad packages * 0 packages not accepting signoffs * 11 fully signed off packages * 25 packages missing signoffs * 0 packages older than 14 days (Note:

Re: [arch-dev-public] multilib

2012-09-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.09.2012 08:41, schrieb Bartłomiej Piotrowski: On 09/12/2012 03:01 PM, Alexander Rødseth wrote: Can I have access to [multilib] so I can remove chuck? (and possibly make other useful changes to multilib in the future). I've the same request. I want to bring to [multilib] lib32-fmodex

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving repos to nymeria

2012-09-16 Thread Tom Gundersen
Am 16.09.2012 08:34, schrieb Jan Steffens: I want avoid anything that requires me to upload the DB from my computer. [...] That would be over 7MB I would have to download and upload Would we really need to sign the full 7MB database? Could we not come up with something more minimal to sign

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving repos to nymeria

2012-09-16 Thread Xyne
Tom Gundersen wrote: Am 16.09.2012 08:34, schrieb Jan Steffens: I want avoid anything that requires me to upload the DB from my computer. [...] That would be over 7MB I would have to download and upload Why can't the following procedure be used? 1) update the database on the server 2)

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving repos to nymeria

2012-09-16 Thread Allan McRae
On 16/09/12 23:56, Xyne wrote: Tom Gundersen wrote: Am 16.09.2012 08:34, schrieb Jan Steffens: I want avoid anything that requires me to upload the DB from my computer. [...] That would be over 7MB I would have to download and upload Why can't the following procedure be used?

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving repos to nymeria

2012-09-16 Thread Xyne
Allan McRae wrote: What does check it and sign it mean? Diff it to the old and signed database? By check it I mean check that each signature in the database is authentic and trusted, and that every package in the database is signed. I thought there was an easy way to verify each signature's

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving repos to nymeria

2012-09-16 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-09-16 16:03:19 +] Xyne: By check it I mean check that each signature in the database is authentic and trusted, and that every package in the database is signed. Signing the DB serves a completely different purpose to all the signatures on its packages. -- Gaetan

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving repos to nymeria

2012-09-16 Thread Xyne
Gaetan Bisson wrote: [2012-09-16 16:03:19 +] Xyne: By check it I mean check that each signature in the database is authentic and trusted, and that every package in the database is signed. Signing the DB serves a completely different purpose to all the signatures on its packages. I see

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving repos to nymeria

2012-09-16 Thread Xyne
Xyne wrote: If they are kept in the database then signing the database file itself may be unnecessary. Pacman could verify the integrity of the metadata for each package when it downloads the database. Adding to that idea, pacman currently verifies database signatures each time it is run. If the

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving repos to nymeria

2012-09-16 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-09-16 23:33:39 +] Xyne: I see now that what I proposed would not ensure the integrity of package metadata such as dependencies. As the metadata is found within packages (.pkg.tar.xz), package signatures (.pkg.tar.xz.sig) ensure their integrity and, more importantly, authenticity. The