Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] udev 118-2

2008-02-24 Thread Michal Soltys
Xavier wrote: What if you blacklist a module after booting, then plug in some hardware? http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2008-February/004941.html The previous udev package still looks like the most acceptable way. Ahh, yes, you're right. There would have to be some script

Re: [arch-general] Concurrent java environments

2008-02-24 Thread w9ya
Comments inserted, where it seems prudent, below: > Hi, Hey there !!; > >> I see a HUGE headache is asking the user to deal with "changing paths" >> just so a few users can have two java implementations installed. Or >> even worse asking some sort of software to 'automagically' switch such >>

Re: [arch-general] Concurrent java environments

2008-02-24 Thread Adam Vogt
There should be nothing philosophically against having multiple javae installed, if allowing concurrent installations just needs a change in paths (and updating the conflicts arrays). You could compare the situation to the many lisp implementations that can be installed concurrently without pro

Re: [arch-general] Concurrent java environments

2008-02-24 Thread Ondřej Kučera
Hi, > I see a HUGE headache is asking the user to deal with "changing paths" > just so a few users can have two java implementations installed. Or > even worse asking some sort of software to 'automagically' switch such > declarations. there is nothing but grief in going that route with > little t

Re: [arch-general] Concurrent java environments

2008-02-24 Thread w9ya
Comments and a solution offered below: > Hi, > >> You could install gcc-gcj and symlink the web plugin in the right >> directory without installing java-gcj-compat. > > Yes. But sadly, as I was saying, that won't work for applets using > certificates because they would be looking for files > like

Re: [arch-general] Concurrent java environments

2008-02-24 Thread Ondřej Kučera
Hi, > You could install gcc-gcj and symlink the web plugin in the right > directory without installing java-gcj-compat. Yes. But sadly, as I was saying, that won't work for applets using certificates because they would be looking for files like /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0/jre/lib/security

Re: [arch-general] Concurrent java environments

2008-02-24 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 04:21 +0100, Ondřej Kučera wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering - why jre/jdk packages conflict with java-gcj-compat? > Unless I missed something there are no file conflicts (since jre and > jdk are in /opt) and I think the rest (switching between the > environments when nece