[arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-19 Thread Bendany Qian
Hi all I just have a sugguestion about the pkg format. Currently archlinux is using gzip compress method to pack the package, I think it is better to use bzip2. since bzip2 format can save about 10%-20% disk space than gzip. As I know, FreeBSD has already switch its package format from gzip to

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Xavier
Aaron Griffin wrote: I stopped paying attention days ago. *mark-as-read*. This is a technical list, thus inline or bottom posting is preferred. It's a fact. There doesn't even need to be a discussion. It wasn't my intention to start a discussion, I didn't want that thread to grow that big. I

Re: [arch-general] poll: udev uevents settle wait time

2008-05-19 Thread 甘露(Lu Gan)
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 7:03 AM, gnu2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 20:01 +0300, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > I have recently seen the new feature of the initscripts, where the > waiting > > time for uevents settling is being reported. So since we are all

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread eliott
I thought this whole thread was tongue in cheek (read: A giant purposeful joke). I missed the first serveral emails in this thread, and didn't even realize people were actually being serious until i (just now) read the replies after my original email. Then I laughed. On 5/19/08, Aaron Griffin <[EM

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As has been stated, this has already gotten too involved, but one I stopped paying attention days ago. *mark-as-read*. This is a technical list, thus inline or bottom posting is preferred. It's a fact. There doesn't even need to b

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Scott
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 04:08:14AM +0300, Mordechai Peller wrote: > Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: > >We might argue if it's a mail client's fault or user's > "Why yes, I just so happened to be holding the gun and pulling the trigger > when > it went off. But honestly, it was the gun's fault. If the m

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Mordechai Peller
Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: We might argue if it's a mail client's fault or user's "Why yes, I just so happened to be holding the gun and pulling the trigger when it went off. But honestly, it was the gun's fault. If the manufacture hadn't designed the gun to fire the bullet, none of this would

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Mordechai Peller
David Rosenstrauch wrote: And similarly, I find bottom posting a bit annoying, as I'm often forced to scroll down to read what the most recent commenter wrote. (Though, obviously, that's really an outgrowth of bottom-posters violating the "trimming" rule, rather than a problem with bottom-pos

Re: [arch-general] poll: udev uevents settle wait time

2008-05-19 Thread gnu2
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 20:01 +0300, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > Hello list, > > I have recently seen the new feature of the initscripts, where the waiting > time for uevents settling is being reported. So since we are all interested > in booting speed, what are the times being reported for your

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Thursday 15 May 2008 21:21:21 Xavier wrote: > http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html > > What about using a consistent style, at least for one given ML? > arch-general is really painful to read sometimes. > > Thanks! Well, as far as my research has lead me to, the answer is here: RFC 1

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And then theres also html emails. I wonder if there is easy way to not > accept non plain text emails. I know some lists have that feature. HTML emails are an abomination. I think mailman lets me block them. I can fin

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Jon Kristian Nilsen
See? On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 08:57:44PM +, Jon Kristian Nilsen wrote: > >My point being, and I see your point, but there will be > >More people coming to this list who doesn't know about that rule, and >

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 08:57:44PM +, Jon Kristian Nilsen wrote: >My point being, and I see your point, but there will be >More people coming to this list who doesn't know about that rule, and >forcing this upon users would imho be a painfull experience. >Mailclients do this in

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Jon Kristian Nilsen
My point being, and I see your point, but there will be More people coming to this list who doesn't know about that rule, and forcing this upon users would imho be a painfull experience. Mailclients do this in different ways, and I don't think all old/new users will be taking it to their attention.

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Monday 19 May 2008 22:30:12 Xavier wrote: > If you follow the rule, then you should to same here on this ML. > If you don't, you die. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22died+in+a+top+posting+accident%22 mhm -- best regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen Arvid Ephraim Picciani

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Xavier
Jon Kristian Nilsen wrote: I blame email clients, not the poster. I blame both. What's your point? If you had to use a british car in France, on which side of the road would you drive? If you follow the rule, then you should to same here on this ML. If you don't, you die.

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Jon Kristian Nilsen
I blame email clients, not the poster. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:57 PM, jason maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] >> Personally I don't really care that much which way people post, but as >> there's a good number of very vocal "bottom posting police" :-) types in the >> FOSS community tha

Re: [arch-general] Coherence PKGBUILD problems

2008-05-19 Thread Jon Kristian Nilsen
I just realised that rafb has removed my paste, PKGBUILD - http://pastebin.ca/1023104 makepkg log - http://pastebin.ca/1023108 And here's the log from running ''sudo python setup.py install' - http://pastebin.ca/1023112 The manual way installs it the way it should, with the backends. On Sun, May

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread jason maxwell
> > [snip] > Personally I don't really care that much which way people post, but as > there's a good number of very vocal "bottom posting police" :-) types in the > FOSS community that often raise a ruckus when you top post, I generally just > try to conform and bottom post in the interests of keep

[arch-general] poll: udev uevents settle wait time

2008-05-19 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
Hello list, I have recently seen the new feature of the initscripts, where the waiting time for uevents settling is being reported. So since we are all interested in booting speed, what are the times being reported for your computer? Let me start with a P3 800MHz I have running arch. Normal

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Jon B wrote: I'll be the weird one and admit that I find top-postings to be easier to read. But just because I like all of you, I'll type way down here. :) -jb You're not the only weird one. To me, the most recent comments are what's most important, and if I'm interested in the background t

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread eliott
I tend to post all over the place. On 5/19/08, Callan Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THIS THREAD IS HILARIOUS! I agree.

Re: [arch-general] Anyway to tranlate installer?

2008-05-19 Thread gan lu
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Justin Gx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > gan lu wrote: > > I hope I can, or I will report a bug for tracking, thanks. > > > > Not being able to translate the installer into your language proper does > not qualify as a bug. It would be best if you left the bug tracker

Re: [arch-general] Anyway to tranlate installer?

2008-05-19 Thread Alessio Bolognino
On Mon 2008-05-19 11:22 , Justin Gx wrote: > gan lu wrote: > > I hope I can, or I will report a bug for tracking, thanks. > > > > Not being able to translate the installer into your language proper does > not qualify as a bug. It would be best if you left the bug tracker for > tracking serious, *

Re: [arch-general] Anyway to tranlate installer?

2008-05-19 Thread Justin Gx
gan lu wrote: > I hope I can, or I will report a bug for tracking, thanks. > Not being able to translate the installer into your language proper does not qualify as a bug. It would be best if you left the bug tracker for tracking serious, *real*, bugs - like systems that freeze for no apparent re

Re: [arch-general] experience with gprs/umts cards & linux?

2008-05-19 Thread rodland
Hi I use my sony-ericsson k750 cell phone as gprs modem. It runs well with the usb cable and wvdial, I didn't try it over bluetooth. Regards, Rodland. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:40 AM, BaSh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/5/19 Arvid Ephraim Picciani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi, >> Unfortunatly

Re: [arch-general] experience with gprs/umts cards & linux?

2008-05-19 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Monday 19 May 2008 01:38:08 Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: > Hi, > Unfortunatly i need to travel a lot recently. > For windows you can use those pcmia cards that act as a modem for umts/gprs > connections. > If anyone tried something like that on linux, please share your experience. > Maybe i cou

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-19 Thread Callan Barrett
THIS THREAD IS HILARIOUS! On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 07:57:03AM +0200, Xavier wrote: >> Jon B wrote: > > >> ...some people top posting even in the same thread) made it harder to >> read. >> >> That said, we indeed have to pick one..