Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-22 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:27 PM, C Anthony Risinger anth...@extof.me wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 22/06/10 12:07, C Anthony Risinger wrote: my point of this ramble if

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-22 Thread Allan McRae
On 22/06/10 15:59, C Anthony Risinger wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Dan McGeedpmc...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:27 PM, C Anthony Risingeranth...@extof.me wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Allan McRaeal...@archlinux.org wrote: On 22/06/10 12:07, C Anthony

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-22 Thread Caleb Cushing
2010/6/21 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com: I'd still like to know how this replaces/conflicts with Arch policy for 'as upstream as possible'. I'm aware that just starting out the answer may just be we don't know yet, but for me one of the benefits of Arch is that all packages are close to upstream

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-22 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Andres P's message of 2010-06-22 01:53:20 +0200: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:17 PM, C Anthony Risinger anth...@extof.me wrote: He said from git/svn... ie backporting, not contributing. ...? Once they're in svn they're confined to abs? Besides, it's not like there's anything

Re: [arch-general] Kudos to the Arch devs!

2010-06-22 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On 06/22/2010 09:10 AM, Gaurish Sharma wrote: Hi, I would be interested to know your experience of running arch as server os. running I use distros like debian,CentOS etc. till now I have been scared of running arch as server. Please share your experience Regards, Gaurish Sharma Even I've

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-22 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:16:23 +1000 Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: The point is that the developers around here already patch for security issues. The only change that I think that a security team will achieve is to notify me (as a developer) of issues that I have overlooked on the

Re: [arch-general] Kudos to the Arch devs!

2010-06-22 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:44:44 -0500 David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Great Job Devs. That brings my total Arch installs to 7, including my 2 primary servers. Arch has nailed what a distro should be and that's something worth jealously guarding against the pressures

Re: [arch-general] Kudos to the Arch devs!

2010-06-22 Thread Sergey Manucharian
Excerpts from Gaurish Sharma's message of Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:10 +0530: I would be interested to know your experience of running arch as server os. running I use distros like debian,CentOS etc. till now I have been scared of running arch as server. Please share your experience I'm using

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-22 Thread Andres P
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: Sure, like any dev will be going through every possible bug tracker, repo or ask any possible user to find patches for his app. Don't be ridiculous. If you write a patch that's not distro specific, then it's your

[arch-general] - makepkg now aborts automatically with any errors during packaging

2010-06-22 Thread Evgeny Burmentyev
Hello. With such an addition, how do I make a given command not interrupt makepkg? Like command || ignore_errors

Re: [arch-general] - makepkg now aborts automatically with any errors during packaging

2010-06-22 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Tuesday 22 June 2010 20:37:45 Evgeny Burmentyev wrote: Hello. With such an addition, how do I make a given command not interrupt makepkg? Like command || ignore_errors || return 0 ? -- Andrea Scarpino - andreascarpino.it KDE Maintainer in Arch Linux

Re: [arch-general] - makepkg now aborts automatically with any errors during packaging

2010-06-22 Thread Evgeny Burmentyev
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 08:40:18PM +0200, Andrea Scarpino wrote: On Tuesday 22 June 2010 20:37:45 Evgeny Burmentyev wrote: Hello. With such an addition, how do I make a given command not interrupt makepkg? Like command || ignore_errors || return 0 ? -- Andrea Scarpino -

Re: [arch-general] - makepkg now aborts automatically with any errors during packaging

2010-06-22 Thread Jan Steffens
No no no no no. || return 0 would exit the function with a success if the command fails. You'll want || true On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Evgeny Burmentyev vir.fo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 08:40:18PM +0200, Andrea Scarpino wrote: On Tuesday 22 June 2010 20:37:45 Evgeny

Re: [arch-general] - makepkg now aborts automatically with any errors during packaging

2010-06-22 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Tuesday 22 June 2010 20:52:59 Jan Steffens wrote: No no no no no. || return 0 would exit the function with a success if the command fails. You'll want || true right, || true is the real 'Ignore' -- Andrea Scarpino - andreascarpino.it KDE Maintainer in Arch Linux

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-22 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Andres P aep...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: Sure, like any dev will be going through every possible bug tracker, repo or ask any possible user to find patches for his app. Don't be

[arch-general] Arch Linux

2010-06-22 Thread Josef Tupag
Has anyone tried Arch Linux on their thinkpad? I just want to know how fast it is. I don't like the long boot that is found in Ubuntu and many other distro. Josef Tupag best humidifiers http://thebesthumidifiers.com

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux

2010-06-22 Thread Joshua Sorensen
I've been running it on my X61 for a while now. For the most part? I'm way happy. it's pretty fast, and reliable. However, I have had some issues with my wireless card but that's been acting up for years without me being able to figure out what the problem is (in windows and in linux). All in all

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux

2010-06-22 Thread fons
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:12:30PM +0300, Josef Tupag wrote: Has anyone tried Arch Linux on their thinkpad? I just want to know how fast it is. I don't like the long boot that is found in Ubuntu and many other distro. I'm writing this on an R51. It has seen Suse, Fedora and finally Arch, and

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux

2010-06-22 Thread Thomas Haider
Am Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:12:30 +0300 schrieb Josef Tupag joseftu...@gmail.com: Has anyone tried Arch Linux on their thinkpad? I just want to know how fast it is. I don't like the long boot that is found in Ubuntu and many other distro. Josef Tupag best humidifiers

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux

2010-06-22 Thread Thomas Jost
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:12:30 +0300, Josef Tupag joseftu...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried Arch Linux on their thinkpad? I just want to know how fast it is. I don't like the long boot that is found in Ubuntu and many other distro. Using Arch on my R61 since I bought it, never used anything

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux

2010-06-22 Thread Joshua Sorensen
Suspend to disk works really well on my X61, maybe it's just the x31 that had issues. -Josh On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Thomas Jost schno...@schnouki.net wrote: On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:12:30 +0300, Josef Tupag joseftu...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried Arch Linux on their thinkpad? I

[arch-general] makepkg creates symlink to the package file

2010-06-22 Thread Attila
Hello together, since the new pacman a makepkg run creates a symlink to the package file in the directory of the PKGBUILD. Example: # ls -l *.gz opera-snapshot-10.60-6378.2ah-i686.pkg.tar.gz - /server/work/archlinux/repo/opera-snapshot-10.60-6378.2ah-i686.pkg.tar.gz My differences to

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux

2010-06-22 Thread John Holbrook
Installed Arch on my X500 and it works amazingly well. Pretty fast and I have a lot of features working that I could never get working with OpenSUSE.

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-22 Thread Andres P
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:51 PM, C Anthony Risinger anth...@extof.me wrote: Ok, the beauty of openbsd is that they're running a BIND version that's been patched to the point of no recognition. They have confidence in their skills instead of quitting before giving it a shot. then in my opinion

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux

2010-06-22 Thread Sergey Manucharian
Excerpts from Thomas Jost's message of Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:31 +0200: On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:12:30 +0300, Josef Tupag joseftu...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried Arch Linux on their thinkpad? I just want to know how fast it is. I don't like the long boot that is found in Ubuntu and many

Re: [arch-general] makepkg creates symlink to the package file

2010-06-22 Thread Allan McRae
On 23/06/10 07:01, Attila wrote: Hello together, since the new pacman a makepkg run creates a symlink to the package file in the directory of the PKGBUILD. Example: # ls -l *.gz opera-snapshot-10.60-6378.2ah-i686.pkg.tar.gz -

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-22 Thread Allan McRae
On 23/06/10 05:21, C Anthony Risinger wrote: example: SSH 0-day exploit is released. bang! you crack out your interim PKGBUILD and crack a beer because your safe right? whoops, because this is a production machine (from a message a couple hours ago): On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Sergey

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-22 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 23/06/10 05:21, C Anthony Risinger wrote: example: SSH 0-day exploit is released.  bang! you crack out your interim PKGBUILD and crack a beer because your safe right?  whoops, because this is a production machine (from

Re: [arch-general] makepkg creates symlink to the package file

2010-06-22 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 23/06/10 07:01, Attila wrote: Hello together, since the new pacman a makepkg run creates a symlink to the package file in the directory of the PKGBUILD. Example: # ls -l *.gz

[arch-general] How to install perl plugins in pidgin ?

2010-06-22 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
How to install perl plugins in pidgin ? The default pidgin doesn't have perl support, so I compiled it with --enable-perl from ABS, but the perl plugin in ~/.purple/plugins with executable perm doesn't show up in the list. -- Regards, Nilesh Govindarajan Facebook:

Re: [arch-general] makepkg creates symlink to the package file

2010-06-22 Thread Baho Utot
On 06/22/10 19:31, Allan McRae wrote: On 23/06/10 07:01, Attila wrote: Hello together, since the new pacman a makepkg run creates a symlink to the package file in the directory of the PKGBUILD. Example: # ls -l *.gz opera-snapshot-10.60-6378.2ah-i686.pkg.tar.gz -

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-22 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 06/22/10 19:49, Allan McRae wrote: Also, as established earlier in the thread, some of our packages have patches for security issues that a a couple of years old because upstream has not made a new release. So the whole probably be fixed by upstream in less that a week and a point release

Re: [arch-general] makepkg creates symlink to the package file

2010-06-22 Thread Allan McRae
On 23/06/10 11:55, Baho Utot wrote: On 06/22/10 19:31, Allan McRae wrote: On 23/06/10 07:01, Attila wrote: Hello together, since the new pacman a makepkg run creates a symlink to the package file in the directory of the PKGBUILD. Example: # ls -l *.gz

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux

2010-06-22 Thread Gan Lu
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:23 AM, John Holbrook johnholbr...@gmail.com wrote: Installed Arch on my X500 and it works amazingly well. Pretty fast and I have a lot of features working that I could never get working with OpenSUSE. T43P works well too, but is there a model X500 from lenovo?

Re: [arch-general] makepkg creates symlink to the package file

2010-06-22 Thread Allan McRae
On 23/06/10 10:47, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Allan McRaeal...@archlinux.org wrote: On 23/06/10 07:01, Attila wrote: Hello together, since the new pacman a makepkg run creates a symlink to the package file in the directory of the PKGBUILD. Example: # ls -l *.gz

Re: [arch-general] makepkg creates symlink to the package file

2010-06-22 Thread Dan McGee
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 23/06/10 10:47, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Allan McRaeal...@archlinux.org  wrote: On 23/06/10 07:01, Attila wrote: Hello together, since the new pacman a makepkg run creates a symlink to the

Re: [arch-general] makepkg creates symlink to the package file

2010-06-22 Thread Attila
At Mittwoch, 23. Juni 2010 05:48 Allan McRae wrote: Possibly... I do not use makepkg -i as I use makepkg -sr so it removed the makedepends that will be unneeded in the future. Using makepkg -c clean up the dangling symlinks. I even use makepkg -c too and the symlink is still there. And

Re: [arch-general] makepkg creates symlink to the package file

2010-06-22 Thread Allan McRae
On 23/06/10 15:11, Attila wrote: Or do you mean that a makepkg -c will clean elder invalid symlinks? This one.

Re: [arch-general] makepkg creates symlink to the package file

2010-06-22 Thread Attila
At Mittwoch, 23. Juni 2010 06:06 Dan McGee wrote: It is also a very helpful symlink for those of us that like to run namcap after building to check the package. That is an advantage ... because i forgot in the most cases to run it and now the motivation to do it is higher.-) See you, Attila

Re: [arch-general] makepkg creates symlink to the package file

2010-06-22 Thread Attila
At Mittwoch, 23. Juni 2010 06:06 Dan McGee wrote: It is also a very helpful symlink for those of us that like to run namcap after building to check the package. I must correct myself and have a from my view better idea for this. I suggest a new option -n (or --namcap) which runs namacp after