Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: snip rc.conf - MODULES(!mod1, !mod2): blacklisting modules in the modules array will no longer have any effect. modprobe already provides two different ways of preventing modules from being loaded, so this is just a matter of

Re: [arch-general] After kdelibs and workspace last package updates KDE is not working properly.

2011-05-29 Thread Álvaro Villalba Navarro
You are right Kerry, I just had my kde configuration corrupted. Thanks! 2011/5/28 Kerrick Staley m...@kerrickstaley.com: Álvaro, Try this: log out of your KDE session, then execute mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4_old from a terminal, and then log back in to KDE. Check to see if the issue persists. If the

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Tom Gundersen
Thanks for your Oon-ee. Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: snip rc.conf - MODULES(!mod1, !mod2): blacklisting modules in the modules array will no longer have any effect. modprobe already

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: Thanks for your Oon-ee. Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: snip rc.conf - MODULES(!mod1, !mod2): blacklisting modules in

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: Thanks for your Oon-ee. Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Tom Gundersen

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Casey Peter
On 05/29/2011 04:32 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Oon-Ee Ngngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Tom Gundersent...@jklm.no wrote: Thanks for your Oon-ee. Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Oon-Ee Ngngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 28,

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: Thanks for your Oon-ee. Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Oon-Ee Ng

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Auguste Pop
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: I have not found any uses of the MODULES array like you describe (if they exist they should be considered bugs though, the MODULES array was not meant to be used in this way). However, if anyone knows of any, then please let me

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Casey Peter casey...@gmail.com wrote: Also !usblp  for those of us with USB printer issues.  (especially HP usb inkjets) Yup, blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d (we should probably fix this once and for all, I believe other distro's simply removed this module, but

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Auguste Pop augu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: I have not found any uses of the MODULES array like you describe (if they exist they should be considered bugs though, the MODULES array was not meant to be

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Casey Peter
On 05/29/2011 04:52 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Casey Petercasey...@gmail.com wrote: Also !usblp for those of us with USB printer issues. (especially HP usb inkjets) Yup, blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d (we should probably fix this once and for all, I believe

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Auguste Pop
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: No. I was saying that only load-modules.sh/initscripts should parse the MODULES array directly (Oon-ee was suggesting that udev rules might rely on the MODULES array). Once we make this change, then blacklisting in rc.conf

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Richard Schütz
Am 29.05.2011 12:52, schrieb Tom Gundersen: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Casey Petercasey...@gmail.com wrote: Also !usblp for those of us with USB printer issues. (especially HP usb inkjets) Yup, blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d (we should probably fix this once and for all, I believe

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Richard Schütz r.sc...@t-online.de wrote: ood idea, as some applications still need it. For example escputil, which is shipped with gutenprint, needs usblp to read the ink levels from some EPSON printers. So only blacklisting it by default seems to be the better

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Robert Howard
I recently did a fresh install and noticed a ton of modules prefixed with ! in rc.conf by default. Not at the box currently but it was 5-7 modules listed. This will have to be changed. Also, this functionality has worked the same way for the entire time that I've used Arch. That is since 2003

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Meyithi
On 29 May 2011 15:53, Robert Howard howard@gmail.com wrote: I recently did a fresh install and noticed a ton of modules prefixed with ! in rc.conf by default. Not at the box currently but it was 5-7 modules listed. This will have to be changed. Also, this functionality has worked the

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Robert Howard howard@gmail.com wrote: I recently did a fresh install and noticed a ton of modules prefixed with ! in rc.conf by default.  Not at the box currently but it was 5-7 modules listed. This will have to be changed. This is not in the initscripts

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Meyithi m...@meyithi.com wrote: If that happened then you used the Archboot install media with it's hwdetect consistent device ordering option.  Archboot isn't official install media and I suspect that feature will have to be reworked because of the udev

Re: [arch-general] whitebox on bootup after KMS kicks in

2011-05-29 Thread kevku
Same here with syslinux vesamenu, intel gma965.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Vytautas Stankevičius
On Sunday 29 of May 2011 13:56:15 Tom Gundersen wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Auguste Pop augu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: I have not found any uses of the MODULES array like you describe (if they exist they should be

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Tom Gundersen
2011/5/29 Vytautas Stankevičius brothe...@gmail.com: I seem to remember that the point of rc.conf was to configure system in one place. Looks like the politics are changing. rc.conf is the one place for all Arch-specific settings. As you know /etc is full of config files owned by different

Re: [arch-general] After kdelibs and workspace last package updates KDE is not working properly.

2011-05-29 Thread Kerrick Staley
No problem. Corruption of the KDE configuration happens frequently on my system; I haven't yet bothered to find out why, though. I usually prefer Kerrick, not Kerry, by the way. -Kerrick Staley On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Álvaro Villalba Navarro vn.alv...@gmail.com wrote: You are right

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

2011-05-29 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: 2011/5/29 Vytautas Stankevičius brothe...@gmail.com: I seem to remember that the point of rc.conf was to configure system in one place. Looks like the politics are changing. rc.conf is the one place for all Arch-specific

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-29 Thread 俞颐超
The next kernel version will be 3.0 Any decision now? On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Kwpolska kwpol...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:57:23PM +0200, Marek Otahal wrote: 100% agreed! although i think this thread is pointless, imagine google search for broken wifi: gg linux