[arch-general] hwclock and openntpd

2011-06-04 Thread Yclept Nemo
A recent announcement said: * The adjustment of the hwclock for drift is moved into a daemon that should not be used in most scenarios as it can lead to subtle bugs (especially if using dual-boot or ntp). If you know what you are doing and want to adjust the hardware clock for drift, add

Re: [arch-general] hwclock and openntpd

2011-06-04 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 03:06 -0400, Yclept Nemo wrote: Perhaps openntpd does not set the hwclock. Therefore, should openntpd be used in conjuction with the hwclock daemon? That's true, and that's also the reason why Openntpd doesn't play well with Xen where all guest VMs will take over the

Re: [arch-general] hwclock and openntpd

2011-06-04 Thread F.Gr.
Jan de Groot : On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 03:06 -0400, Yclept Nemo wrote: Perhaps openntpd does not set the hwclock. Therefore, should openntpd be used in conjuction with the hwclock daemon? That's true, and that's also the reason why Openntpd doesn't play well with Xen where all guest VMs

[arch-general] Installation images in need of an update?

2011-06-04 Thread JM
Hello, The current installer images are from 05.2010 which is over a year old. I was unable to install Arch on my new laptop using this installer due to insufficient hardware support in kernel 2.6.33. Are there any plans to update it? Regards, JM

Re: [arch-general] Installation images in need of an update?

2011-06-04 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:38:01 +0200, JM wrote: Hello, The current installer images are from 05.2010 which is over a year old. I was unable to install Arch on my new laptop using this installer due to insufficient hardware support in kernel 2.6.33. Are there any plans to update it? Regards,

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2011-06-04 Thread Myra Nelson
-- Forwarded message -- From: Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net Date: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:10 Subject: Re: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] coreutils-8.12-2, initscripts-2011.06.2-1, net-tools-1.60-15, udev-171-2, yp-tools-2.12-2 To: Public mailing list for Arch Linux development

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2011-06-04 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi Myra, On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net wrote: One quick question, why do I still have udev 169 and udev 171 starting. As you correctly assumed, the first one is in initramfs. What has happened is that your initramfs has not been updated (this happens on

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2011-06-04 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:18, Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net Date: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:10 Subject: Re: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] coreutils-8.12-2, initscripts-2011.06.2-1, net-tools-1.60-15,

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2011-06-04 Thread mangust
On 06/04/2011 07:43 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:18, Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net Date: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:10 Subject: Re: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] coreutils-8.12-2,

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2011-06-04 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Jun 4, 2011 1:54 PM, mangust m4ng...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/04/2011 07:43 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: I assume the next step will be to migrate /usr to the rootfs. No need to merge /usr with rootsf. See this thread http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2011-June/020564.html

Re: [arch-general] Was Fwd: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] coreutils-8.12-2, initscripts-2011.06.2-1, net-tools-1.60-15, udev-171-2, yp-tools-2.12-2

2011-06-04 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 04.06.2011 23:48, schrieb C Anthony Risinger: Separate /usr is 100% historical AFAICT ... per systemd it's unsupported, It is historical, yes. and IIRC its not perfect supported on any distro for a variety of reasons. I run several SuSE machines with /usr on a separate partition. Works

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2011-06-04 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 17:04, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 04.06.2011 23:48, schrieb C Anthony Risinger: Separate /usr is 100% historical AFAICT ... per systemd it's unsupported, It is historical, yes. and IIRC its not perfect supported on any distro for a variety of

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2011-06-04 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net wrote: and IIRC its not perfect supported on any distro for a variety of reasons. I run several SuSE machines with /usr on a separate partition. Works fine. And right now, Arch should also work. It is historical and the

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2011-06-04 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 18:04, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net wrote: and IIRC its not perfect supported on any distro for a variety of reasons. I run several SuSE machines with /usr on a separate partition. Works fine. And

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2011-06-04 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net wrote: My point wasn't to push any policy change. I'll follow what Arch wants to do. My last post was simply an explanation of why /usr was a separate partition historically, nothing more. Got it :-) My post was meant for

[arch-general] How to cache pacman mirror for LAN

2011-06-04 Thread Takayuki Muranushi
Hello, I'm building a computer cluster with about 20 nodes, all of them running ArchLinux. One of them is the 'login' node connected to the Internet, other nodes share Internet connection via the login node being a router. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internet_Share Now, when I update

Re: [arch-general] How to cache pacman mirror for LAN

2011-06-04 Thread Gary Wright
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Takayuki Muranushi muranu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm building a computer cluster with about 20 nodes, all of them running ArchLinux. One of them is the 'login' node connected to the Internet, other nodes share Internet connection via the login node being a