Re: [arch-general] network error empathy

2011-06-09 Thread Madhurya Kakati
On 06/09/2011 07:25 AM, Carlos Alberto Ospina wrote: > Hi everybody > > I have trouble connecting to msn through empathy, the other protocols work > fine (msn irc facebook), when trying to connect " network error". If someone > could help me, thanx from Colombia > > May be the msn servers are unrea

[arch-general] Bachelor thesis

2011-06-09 Thread Luštický Josef
Hello everyone, I'm Josef Lusticky and I'd like to write a Bachelor thesis about operating systems. I'm student of Faculty of Information Technology in Brno, Czech Republic and I have been using Linux since 2006 and Archlinux since 2008. I'm enthuasistic user of Arch and Linux in general and I'

Re: [arch-general] Bachelor thesis

2011-06-09 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 06/09/2011 10:34 AM, Luštický Josef wrote: Hello everyone, I'm Josef Lusticky and I'd like to write a Bachelor thesis about operating systems. I'm student of Faculty of Information Technology in Brno, Czech Republic and I have been using Linux since 2006 and Archlinux since 2008. I'm enthuas

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-09 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Thursday 09 June 2011 00:04:09 Heiko Baums wrote: > schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > > Such a patch would also have to copy the modules (which aren't under > > kernel26's 'purview'). For example, nvidia gets upgraded on a major > > version kernel update, the old kernel which has been renamed doesn't > > 'w

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Thursday, June 09, 2011 05:31:06 Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > On Thursday 09 June 2011 00:04:09 Heiko Baums wrote: > > schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > > > Such a patch would also have to copy the modules (which aren't under > > > kernel26's 'purview'). For example, nvidia gets upgraded on a major > > > versi

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-09 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Thursday 09 June 2011 14:07:45 Yaro Kasear wrote: > On Thursday, June 09, 2011 05:31:06 Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > > Well, it's happened to me, and it *could* happen to you. Better to > > prevent the situation, don't you think? > > Again: Purpose of fallback image and lts kernel. Jacking up /bo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] coreutils-8.12-2, initscripts-2011.06.3-1, net-tools-1.60-16, udev-171-2, yp-tools-2.12-2, ypbind-mt-1.33-2, iproute2-2.6.38-3

2011-06-09 Thread Wim Van Deun
> Great! Thanks! > > -t > Hi, Is there also an alternative to netstat ??? Thanks. Regards, Wim

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] coreutils-8.12-2, initscripts-2011.06.3-1, net-tools-1.60-16, udev-171-2, yp-tools-2.12-2, ypbind-mt-1.33-2, iproute2-2.6.38-3

2011-06-09 Thread Hyacinthe Cartiaux
2011/6/9 Wim Van Deun > > Hi, > > Is there also an alternative to netstat ??? > Thanks. > > Regards, > Wim > "lsof -i -n" may help you, it shows current connections, ordered by owner's process id. -- Hyacinthe

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] coreutils-8.12-2, initscripts-2011.06.3-1, net-tools-1.60-16, udev-171-2, yp-tools-2.12-2, ypbind-mt-1.33-2, iproute2-2.6.38-3

2011-06-09 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On 9 June 2011 16:37, Wim Van Deun wrote: > Is there also an alternative to netstat ??? ss :p

Re: [arch-general] pacman tries to install nvidia drivers?

2011-06-09 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 8 June 2011 18:01, John K Pate wrote: > >> Probably this bug https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24608 > > Oh yes, it's exactly that. I removed luxrender (which I've ended up not > using) and the update goes through fine. > > Thanks, > > John K Pate > http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/s0930006/ > > > -

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-09 Thread Joe(theWordy)Philbrook
It would appear that on Jun 9, Yaro Kasear did say: > On Thursday, June 09, 2011 05:31:06 Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > > On Thursday 09 June 2011 00:04:09 Heiko Baums wrote: > > > schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > > > > Such a patch would also have to copy the modules (which aren't under > > > > kernel26's 'pur

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:01:15 - schrieb "Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Tom Gundersen" : > Tom Gundersen wrote: > > This April marked the ten year anniversary of the last net-tools > release. We decided to look at this as an opportunity to deprecate > net-tools and provide alternative, and b

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:01:15 - > schrieb "Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Tom Gundersen" > : > >> Tom Gundersen wrote: >> >> This April marked the ten year anniversary of the last net-tools >> release. We decided to look at this as an oppo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> Am Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:01:15 - >> schrieb "Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Tom Gundersen" >> : >> >>> Tom Gundersen wrote: >>> >>> This April marked the ten year anniversary of the

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread Thomas S Hatch
Does netcfg still need net-tools? or can it be an opt depends? It was my understanding that it only used ip unless specified otherwise.

Re: [arch-general] Bachelor thesis

2011-06-09 Thread Marek Otahal
On Thursday 09 of June 2011 10:34:45 Luštický Josef wrote: > Hello everyone, > I'm Josef Lusticky and I'd like to write a Bachelor thesis about > operating systems. > I'm student of Faculty of Information Technology in Brno, Czech > Republic and I have been using Linux since 2006 and Archlinux si

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-09 Thread C Anthony Risinger
2011/6/9 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook : > > This is the kind of thing that caused me to become a ‘multi-Linux > distribution’, > ‘multi-boot’ kind of guy in the first place. When an upgrade «or my own > dumb mistakes» break my system I like being able to simply reboot something > else and finish anythin

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-09 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 5:36 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > 2011/6/9 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook : >> >> This is the kind of thing that caused me to become a ‘multi-Linux >> distribution’, >> ‘multi-boot’ kind of guy in the first place. When an upgrade «or my own >> dumb mistakes» break my system I li

Re: [arch-general] Bachelor thesis

2011-06-09 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
2011/6/9 Marek Otahal : > On Thursday 09 of June 2011 10:34:45 Luštický Josef wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> I'm Josef Lusticky and I'd like to write a Bachelor thesis about >> operating systems. >> I'm student of Faculty of Information Technology in Brno, Czech >> Republic and I have been using Linu

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:36:21 -0500 schrieb C Anthony Risinger : > does this sound genius or completely insane? some insanely genius guy > once said they are only separated by a fine line ... Sounds completely insane. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] network error empathy

2011-06-09 Thread Martti Kühne
> May be the msn servers are unreachable. With Microsoft, you never know. :P > haven't run into that issue here in Europe. try a different client, like pidgin. :)

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread James Rayner
That is correct. net-utils could be made an optdepend, or the support could just be removed entirely. IIRC the iproute/netutils code was separate and equivalent. It's been a while since I've looked though. On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:11 -0600, "Thomas S Hatch" wrote: > Does netcfg still need net-tools

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-09 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Jun 9, 2011 5:50 PM, "Heiko Baums" wrote: > Am Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:36:21 -0500 > schrieb C Anthony Risinger : > >> does this sound genius or completely insane? some insanely genius guy >> once said they are only separated by a fine line ... > > Sounds completely insane. ook ... and ... why?

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-09 Thread Timothy L.
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:25 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Jun 9, 2011 5:50 PM, "Heiko Baums" wrote: > > Am Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:36:21 -0500 > > schrieb C Anthony Risinger : > > > >> does this sound genius or completely insane? some insanely genius guy > >> once said they are only separated by

Re: [arch-general] Bachelor thesis

2011-06-09 Thread Yclept Nemo
Also NILFS filesystem development is very slow and the project has a long todo list including some gui tools.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread Rémy Oudompheng
On 2011/6/9 Thomas S Hatch wrote: > Does netcfg still need net-tools? or can it be an opt depends? It was my > understanding that it only used ip unless specified otherwise. Actually, I think it only depends on net-tools because there is some obscure option that allows users to make it run ifconf

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] coreutils-8.12-2, initscripts-2011.06.3-1, net-tools-1.60-16, udev-171-2, yp-tools-2.12-2, ypbind-mt-1.33-2, iproute2-2.6.38-3

2011-06-09 Thread Joker-jar
/etc/conf.d/bridges (bridge-utils) still has old rc.conf example: # example: # # in /etc/rc.conf: # eth0="eth0 up" # eth1="eth1 up" # br0="br0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up" # INTERFACES=(lo eth0 eth1 br0) # # in /etc/conf.d/bridges # bridge_br0="eth0 eth1" # BRIDGE_INTERFACES=(br0) # In a