Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:22:16 +0200 "Andre \"Osku\" Schmidt" wrote: > pacman is the package manager. > > and AUR is "Unsupported packages are user produced content. Any use of > the provided files is at your own risk." I'm very well aware of it. However, when I install package with AUR, my syste

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:01:42 +0200 Karol Babioch wrote: > I'm using yaourt and am now wondering what is wrong with it, when you > actually know of it, and don't want to use it ;)? Is there any flaw so > far? As far as I can remember there were some glitches with clyde, > but I haven't heard anyth

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:41:18 +0200 Martti Kühne wrote: > I'm pretty content with bruenig's packer myself, but I recommend you > read the wiki entry about how to use ABS - all aur helpers are in a > first stage about automation of downloading source tarballs and > makepkg -i. Thank you. I'll tak

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] PHP: Dropping Suhosin patch and PEAR

2011-08-19 Thread David C. Rankin
On 08/18/2011 10:17 AM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:32:15 +0200, Pierre Schmitz wrote: Hi all, The recent PHP 5.3.7 packages will be shipped without the Suhosin patch and there also wont be a PEAR package. While I like the suhosin project I have to assume that this is stalled

Re: [arch-general] problems with vim

2011-08-19 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Uli Armbruster wrote: > My problem is, in vim the right and left arrow keys don't do anything in > command mode What locale, what keyboard setting, what terminal emulator/console/terminal multiplexer and what other aspect of the environment might be causing the

[arch-general] mounted samba shares causing hang on shutdown/reboot

2011-08-19 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, I'm wondering if I need to change the order of the processes in the DAEMONS line in rc.conf to prevent a hang on reboot/shutdown if smb shares are mounted. It is almost a 3 minute hang: Aug 19 16:42:01 providence postfix/qmgr[1316]: A178EA64CD: removed Aug 19 16:43:13 providence smbd

Re: [arch-general] problems with vim

2011-08-19 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Uli Armbruster wrote: > My problem is, in vim the right and left arrow keys don't do anything in > command mode I confirm keys working fine in every mode. Did you try a pacman -S vim? -- Bl@ster / dottorblaster

Re: [arch-general] problems with vim

2011-08-19 Thread Thaddeus Nielsen
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:38:12PM +0200, Karol Blazewicz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Uli Armbruster > wrote: > > Hi list > > > > I wanted to ask here first, because it might be a configuration problem on > > my side, which I tried to, but couldn't figure out. > > > > My problem is

Re: [arch-general] problems with vim

2011-08-19 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Uli Armbruster wrote: > Hi list > > I wanted to ask here first, because it might be a configuration problem on my > side, which I tried to, but couldn't figure out. > > My problem is, in vim the right and left arrow keys don't do anything in > command mode (in i

[arch-general] problems with vim

2011-08-19 Thread Uli Armbruster
Hi list I wanted to ask here first, because it might be a configuration problem on my side, which I tried to, but couldn't figure out. My problem is, in vim the right and left arrow keys don't do anything in command mode (in insert mode everything's normal). The up and down arrow keys work as

[arch-general] Framebuffer Reset

2011-08-19 Thread pants
Hello, I run my desktop from the framebuffer, and often use the fbdev mplayer video output to watch video. I generally do this by sshing in to the machine via my laptop, running # export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 to get video to output to my desktop's display. Occasionally, while watching somethin

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread tuxce
Le 19 août 2011 18:06, Cédric Girard a écrit : > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > >> >> >> I agree that your arguments have a valid point of view all the way up >> to this point where you lost me. >> For me, "lack of quality" is in the same category as "lack of quality >>

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:53 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > and you can use the bash keyword `command` to suppress function lookup > and avoid a loop, but still use $PATH. oh that's much prettier. thx. been relying on $(which $0) for the $PATH part. mar77i

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Kazuo Teramoto wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti >> wrote: >>>    # Better yaourt >>>    yaourt () { >>>        if [[ $# == 0 ]] >>>        then >>>        

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Kazuo Teramoto wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti > wrote: >>    # Better yaourt >>    yaourt () { >>        if [[ $# == 0 ]] >>        then >>            /usr/bin/yaourt -Sayu >>        else >>            /usr/bin/yaourt $@ >>  

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Kazuo Teramoto
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti wrote: >    # Better yaourt >    yaourt () { >        if [[ $# == 0 ]] >        then >            /usr/bin/yaourt -Sayu >        else >            /usr/bin/yaourt $@ >        fi >    } > > For something more terse: yaourt () { yaourt $

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Cédric Girard's message of 2011-08-19 18:06:53 +0200: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > > > > > > > I agree that your arguments have a valid point of view all the way up > > to this point where you lost me. > > For me, "lack of quality" is in the same categ

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Cédric Girard
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > > > I agree that your arguments have a valid point of view all the way up > to this point where you lost me. > For me, "lack of quality" is in the same category as "lack of quality > impacts speed" > For example, lets have the same badly w

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
2011/8/19 Cédric Girard : > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > >> I've used yaourt for a couple of years now. >> It has always worked for me for the most part, and having a common >> command for everything is very convenient for me. alias y=yaourt and >> you have one of the

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > > I've used yaourt for a couple of years now. > It has always worked for me for the most part, and having a common > command for everything is very convenient for me. alias y=yaourt and > you have one of the simplest ways to do a complete

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Buce
2011/8/19 Cédric Girard > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > > > I've used yaourt for a couple of years now. > > It has always worked for me for the most part, and having a common > > command for everything is very convenient for me. alias y=yaourt and > > you have one of

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Cédric Girard
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > I've used yaourt for a couple of years now. > It has always worked for me for the most part, and having a common > command for everything is very convenient for me. alias y=yaourt and > you have one of the simplest ways to do a complete up

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
2011/8/19 Cédric Girard : > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: > >> I'm using yaourt and am now wondering what is wrong with it, when you >> actually know of it, and don't want to use it ;)? Is there any flaw so >> far? >> > > At the time of packer first release (January 2010),

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Kyle
I've been using pbfetch, and it works pretty well for me. I'm of course open to trying some of these other packages as well. The really great thing is that you can have them all installed, and then uninstall the packages you don't need once you've made your choice. ~Kyle Sent from my Wishdroid!

Re: [arch-general] Pacman get stack when updating the kernel!!

2011-08-19 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 19.08.2011 14:19, schrieb Hector Martinez-Seara: > Hi, > > Today when I have tried to update the kernel pacman got stack: > Updating module dependencies. Please wait ... Generating initial ramdisk, using mkinitcpio. Please wait... > ==> Building image from preset: 'default' > ->

Re: [arch-general] Pacman get stack when updating the kernel!!

2011-08-19 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
>Aug 19 15:18:03 localhost kernel: [608984.681025] xhci_hcd >:02:00.0: WARN: Stalled endpoint Hi, Do you have a USB 3.0 controller/disk? -- Bl@ster / dottorblaster

[arch-general] Pacman get stack when updating the kernel!!

2011-08-19 Thread Hector Martinez-Seara
Hi, Today when I have tried to update the kernel pacman got stack: >>> Updating module dependencies. Please wait ... >>> Generating initial ramdisk, using mkinitcpio. Please wait... ==> Building image from preset: 'default' -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Cédric Girard
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: > I'm using yaourt and am now wondering what is wrong with it, when you > actually know of it, and don't want to use it ;)? Is there any flaw so > far? > At the time of packer first release (January 2010), yaourt was slow and had some awful

Re: [arch-general] Looking for latest iso for AMD64

2011-08-19 Thread Leonenkov, Roman
:-) Yeah oblige to use corporate email, it's added by email-server automatically. I know this signature is ridiculous :-) -Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org [mailto:arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org] On Behalf Of Axilleas P Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:05 PM

Re: [arch-general] Looking for latest iso for AMD64

2011-08-19 Thread Leonenkov, Roman
Thank you very much! Will try today night, if I'll face with any issues let you know in #arch-releng Cheers, Roman. -Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org [mailto:arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org] On Behalf Of Florian Pritz Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM To

Re: [arch-general] Looking for latest iso for AMD64

2011-08-19 Thread Axilleas P
Is that big entry your sig?... Wow For latest isos check here. http://releng.archlinux.org/isos/ On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Leonenkov, Roman wrote: > Hi guys, please advise me the latest working iso image which I could use for > AMD64 PC. > > Thanks, > Roman. > > http://www.bgcpartners.co

Re: [arch-general] Looking for latest iso for AMD64

2011-08-19 Thread Florian Pritz
On 19.08.2011 13:56, Leonenkov, Roman wrote: > Hi guys, please advise me the latest working iso image which I could use for > AMD64 PC. > You can test https://releng.archlinux.org/isos/2011.08.19/ but it might still have some bugs. If you want to help make it work please join #arch-rel...@irc.fr

[arch-general] Looking for latest iso for AMD64

2011-08-19 Thread Leonenkov, Roman
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Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Andre "Osku" Schmidt
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: > Soon I may buy a new netbook and I believe that with ATI graphic, Arch is > better choice, but looking at forums yesterday I saw that both bauerbill & > clyde are gone. :-( > > Considering that decent package manager is very vital part

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Nicholas MIller
I use yaourt without any problems. Used Clyde prior. And I don't notice any major differences On Aug 19, 2011 7:02 PM, "Karol Babioch" wrote: Hi, Am 19.08.2011 08:49, schrieb Gour-Gadadhara Dasa: > Before clyde I used yaourt (which now has C-back end, afaik), tried paktahn > (which has some

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Karol Babioch
Hi, Am 19.08.2011 08:49, schrieb Gour-Gadadhara Dasa: > Before clyde I used yaourt (which now has C-back end, afaik), tried paktahn > (which has some quirks) and now I see pacaur (with cower). I'm using yaourt and am now wondering what is wrong with it, when you actually know of it, and don't wan

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:49:03 +0200 schrieb Gour-Gadadhara Dasa : > What can you recommend so I can read more about it? yaourt or aurbuild Heiko

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Martti Kühne
I'm pretty content with bruenig's packer myself, but I recommend you read the wiki entry about how to use ABS - all aur helpers are in a first stage about automation of downloading source tarballs and makepkg -i. you could pretty easily automate the main tasks of that in a script and voilà - you go