Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Ralf Mardorf Sent: Wed 12/7/2011 02:30 -Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Cédric Girard Sent: Wed 12/7/2011 00:39 Anyway, I think we are getting OT but it is always inte

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Cédric Girard Sent: Wed 12/7/2011 00:39 Anyway, I think we are getting OT but it is always interesting to analyze our workflow and see what can be improved after a mistake. +++ The bad of the story is, that I stoppe

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Cédric Girard
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I'm using tar, cp, rm, since sync commands need to much effort to learn > the usage rsync is indeed quite complex to master with all its options. But you may start from a safe basic set of options like "-av" and expand your knowledge as need

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Cédric Girard Sent: Wed 12/7/2011 00:11 To: General Discussion about Arch Linux Subject: Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > As

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Cédric Girard
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > As root I wanted to run > rm -r /media/path/to/a/partition > This is not safe to do anyway. If I understand you well you were trying to remove an empty folder that was a mount point before ? Then use "rmdir" instead of "rm -r". It will accept

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: Ralf Mardorf Sent: Tue 12/6/2011 23:43 perhaps next week, I'll try to recover the data again. +++ PS: Then I perhaps will reply to some other hints and questions. Again, thank you all for the help. Btw. regarding to audio I never noticed latency of the HDDs neithe

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Mauro Santos Sent: Tue 12/6/2011 17:51 Give testdisk a try, it might not be able to recover everything though, depending on what you've done to the fs after you deleted the files. +++ Thank you everybody for your re

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing Arch Linux

2011-12-06 Thread Nicolás Adamo
On 12/06/2011 11:34 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 06.12.2011 15:24, schrieb Nicolás Adamo: But my advice is to mount a RAID arrange. That would be bulletproof. No, it wouldn't. Deleting a file on RAID still means it's gone. Never made one, but I think's it's all BIOS level; not archlinux. Als

Re: [arch-general] provide with version

2011-12-06 Thread clemens fischer
Christian Hesse wrote: > Hmm... Did not notice the typo as well... > I used the correct syntax automatically. Being a human can be bad and > good. :D Right. But people consulting mailinglists might not know all the ins and outs. Therefore writing precise statements and citing without cut&paste

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Ross Hamblin
On 07/12/11 03:15, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > -Original Message- > From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Thanasis Georgiou > Sent: Tue 12/6/2011 14:20 > [snip] > Arch is using a different repository for 32-bit software under 64-bit > machines called 'multilib'. You only need to

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing Arch Linux

2011-12-06 Thread Ray Rashif
On 6 December 2011 21:08, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > > I'm new to the list. > > I already received some hints from another Arch Linux mailing list. > Welcome to Arch Linux :) > Sorry that my mail is formatted in HTML. When I tied to restore the > distro I used before from a backup for the

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Mauro Santos
On 06-12-2011 14:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > -Original Message- > From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Thomas Bächler > Sent: Tue 12/6/2011 15:34 > > Am 06.12.2011 15:24, schrieb Nicolás Adamo: >> But my advice is to mount a RAID arrange. That would be bulletproof. > > No,

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 06.12.2011 17:22, schrieb Kevin Chadwick: > On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:08:46 +0100 > Thomas Bächler wrote: > >> Generally, running 'rm' on a file means it's gone. It's the >> specification of 'rm'. > > Sort of, more so on SSDs but it's just harder to reconstruct because > SSDs writes are spread ou

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:08:46 +0100 Thomas Bächler wrote: > Generally, running 'rm' on a file means it's gone. It's the > specification of 'rm'. Sort of, more so on SSDs but it's just harder to reconstruct because SSDs writes are spread out as sectors get worn out much quicker. For speed, /bin/rm

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 06.12.2011 15:49, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > [...] I run "rm", so a RAID wouldn't improve anything. Ext3 instead of ext4 > might improve something?! Generally, running 'rm' on a file means it's gone. It's the specification of 'rm'. Expecting something different means you're doing something wrong.

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:51:17 -0600 C Anthony Risinger wrote: > but linking it back > together sounds like a real chore A cinch with tools like testdisk unless it's been overwritten, in which case it would need to be worth >£1000 to recover it in a cleanroom. I always save copies of my documents a

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:32 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > C Anthony ^ whoops ... fat fingered that somehow while thumbing thru new messages :-o ... > On Dec 6, 2011 8:48 AM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: >> >> -Original Message- >> From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Nic

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Ext3 instead of ext4 might improve something?! It is true that ext3 has existed for longer than ext4. However, most testing is now probably done on ext4, so I wouldn't expect ext4 to be more buggy than ext3. The real difference is that ext4 al

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] 2 recommendations needed for installing Arch Linux

2011-12-06 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:08:21 +0100 "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > When I tied to restore the distro I used before from a backup for the > billionth time, I made a mistake and accidentally deleted originals and > backups from ext4 partitions. Have you tried testdisk to recover the data. An arch package

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread C Anthony Risinger
C Anthony On Dec 6, 2011 8:48 AM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > -Original Message- > From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Nicolás Adamo > Sent: Tue 12/6/2011 15:24 > > Man, since ext4 was born, all I heard about it was good... > Regarding data integrity: > > http://www.h-online

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Thomas Bächler Sent: Tue 12/6/2011 15:34 Am 06.12.2011 15:24, schrieb Nicolás Adamo: > But my advice is to mount a RAID arrange. That would be bulletproof. No, it wouldn't. Deleting a file on RAID still means it's go

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Nicolás Adamo Sent: Tue 12/6/2011 15:24 Man, since ext4 was born, all I heard about it was good... Regarding data integrity: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ext4-data-loss-explanations-and-workarounds-740671.ht

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing Arch Linux

2011-12-06 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 06.12.2011 15:24, schrieb Nicolás Adamo: > But my advice is to mount a RAID arrange. That would be bulletproof. No, it wouldn't. Deleting a file on RAID still means it's gone. > Never > made one, but I think's it's all BIOS level; not archlinux. Also not true. There is real hardware RAID, BIO

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing Arch Linux

2011-12-06 Thread Nicolás Adamo
Man, since ext4 was born, all I heard about it was good... Regarding data integrity: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ext4-data-loss-explanations-and-workarounds-740671.html But my advice is to mount a RAID arrange. That would be bulletproof. Never made one, but I think's it's all BIOS level;

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Pardon, that email thingy from my provider is a PITA. I'll use a Linux MUA ASAP.

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Thanasis Georgiou Sent: Tue 12/6/2011 14:20 [snip] Arch is using a different repository for 32-bit software under 64-bit machines called 'multilib'. You only need to enable that and you will be fine. --- Thank you :

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing ArchLinux

2011-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Thanasis Georgiou Sent: Tue 12/6/2011 14:20 [snip] Arch is using a different repository for 32-bit software under 64-bit machines called 'multilib'. You only need to enable that and you will be fine. --- Thank you :

Re: [arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing Arch Linux

2011-12-06 Thread Thanasis Georgiou
No idea about the filesystems but on 32-bit architecture, you shouldn't have any problems. Arch is using a different repository for 32-bit software under 64-bit machines called 'multilib'. You only need to enable that and you will be fine. On 6 December 2011 15:08, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > >

[arch-general] 2 recommendations needed for installing Arch Linux

2011-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :) I'm new to the list. I already received some hints from another Arch Linux mailing list. Sorry that my mail is formatted in HTML. When I tied to restore the distro I used before from a backup for the billionth time, I made a mistake and accidentally deleted originals and backups from ext

Re: [arch-general] Mounting drives via nautilus stopped working after update.

2011-12-06 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Madhurya Kakati wrote: > On Dec 5, 2011 4:48 PM, "Tom Gundersen" wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Madhurya Kakati > wrote: >> > Is there no way other than installing gdm. It installs pulseaudio and > that >> > messes everything on my system. Happened t