Re: [arch-general] Xmonad session fails since upgrade

2011-12-19 Thread Ethan Schoonover
Try nuking your $HOME/.Xauthority prior to starting xmonad from .xinitrc. I had a spate of similar problems that were only solved by removing it in my bash .profile script on each login. No longer seems to be necessary, I never tracked down the root cause, but the solution (rm .Xauthority) was soli

Re: [arch-general] Haskell Support Was: [arch-haskell] Xmonad version?

2011-12-19 Thread Ethan Schoonover
So is the current best practice for Haskell on Arch something like this: 0. Always prefer to source Haskell packages from official Arch repos now that they are updated 1. Always add the [haskell] repo to pacman.conf 2. Always avoid AUR Haskell packages (they are mostly out of date) 3. Always avoid

Re: [arch-general] Question regarding the default file manager in XFCE

2011-12-19 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 12/19/2011 10:42 AM, Vladimir Nikšić wrote: I'm using xfce wm. I rarely even use a file manager, I do things through the console almost all the time, but sometimes I need a file manager, makes some things easier. Thunar as a file manager is OK, but nautilus is a lot more powerful, has decent

Re: [arch-general] Haskell Support Was: [arch-haskell] Xmonad version?

2011-12-19 Thread Magnus Therning
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:31:09AM +0100, Jelle van der Waa wrote: [...] > Btw adopted xmonad,xmonad-contrib, these packages will be updated > today. When building xmonad-extras against these updated packages I noticed that you didn't include a version compiled with profiling enabled (maybe not su

Re: [arch-general] Question regarding the default file manager in XFCE

2011-12-19 Thread Mantas M.
On 2011-12-19 17:42, Vladimir Nikšić wrote: > I would like it so that Nautilus starts when I click on a directory or > some sort of volume (loop mount, usb stick, whatever, nfs share) on the > desktop. Instead, thunar always starts, which kinda defeats the whole > purpose of the preferred applicati

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] filesystem-2011.12 manual intervention required

2011-12-19 Thread Ionut Biru
On 12/19/2011 08:29 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > > This would require changing the install script only for this particular > update. But what's wrong with (as root) > "rm -vf /etc/mtab && ln -vs /proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab && pacman -Syu"? > Using your method, you end up in the same situation like

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] filesystem-2011.12 manual intervention required

2011-12-19 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:41:21 +0530 Keshav P R wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 23:21, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > > > > Yeah, I'll make this clear in the news item. --force is always, > > always, always wrong. Except for this one time, when it is the only > > solution ;-) > > > > -t > > > > Sorry

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] filesystem-2011.12 manual intervention required

2011-12-19 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Keshav P R wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 05:57:51PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> >> > "Please upgrade the filesystem package using 'pacman -Sf filesystem' in >> >> > order to overwrite /etc/mtab." > > Sorry to interrupt guys but can't this be done in pre_

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] filesystem-2011.12 manual intervention required

2011-12-19 Thread Keshav P R
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 23:21, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:38:11PM -0500, Dave Reisner wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 05:57:51PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > >> > Hi guys, > >> > > >> > We are finalizing the mov

Re: [arch-general] Extrange message regarding gnome-keyring

2011-12-19 Thread Ionut Biru
On 12/19/2011 06:52 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote: > Hi, > no change. Can it be that I have to configure something for policykit > to be opened correcty in xfce? I haven't seen anything particular in > the wiki respect to this point but who knows. > > At least, is there anybody seen the same? S

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:07:59 +0100 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 19/12/11, Ralf Madorf wrote: > > > PS: I mean, you should ban them using your MUAs filters, but a list > > shouldn't do. > > Whatever the filtering purpose is about, any personal filter fails at > the job because answers of others

Re: [arch-general] Extrange message regarding gnome-keyring

2011-12-19 Thread Hector Martinez-Seara
Hi, no change. Can it be that I have to configure something for policykit to be opened correcty in xfce? I haven't seen anything particular in the wiki respect to this point but who knows. At least, is there anybody seen the same? Shall I fill a bug instead of spamming the mailing list? Hector O

[arch-general] Question regarding the default file manager in XFCE

2011-12-19 Thread Vladimir Nikšić
I'm using xfce wm. I rarely even use a file manager, I do things through the console almost all the time, but sometimes I need a file manager, makes some things easier. Thunar as a file manager is OK, but nautilus is a lot more powerful, has decent tab implementation etc, etc, doesn't really m

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:07:59 +0100 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > Whatever the filtering purpose is about, any personal filter fails at > the job because answers of others from a filtered mail aren't filtered. > It breaks both threads and context. Not a solution. They can be, but not for the general u

Re: [arch-general] Extrange message regarding gnome-keyring

2011-12-19 Thread Ionut Biru
Can you please test this packages and let me know if is fixed? http://pkgbuild.com/~ioni/gnome-keyring/ -- Ionuț signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:56:44 +0530 Raghavendra D Prabhu wrote: > Bot ? Since when is procmail a bot ? meaning is what matters and anyway I'd say it is, procmail is programmed to do what it does aka a robot.

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:13:32 +0100 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > What solution will you spread when some people will be tied to hear > words like "suck", "fuck" and so? Change the words to things like, flowery and angel. Could be hilarious. "Shut up you mother angel your so flowery lovely"

Re: [arch-general] OT: clipped video output with multihead

2011-12-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:35:35 +0100 Ralf Madorf wrote: > There are solutions for audio, but for video I suspect unlikeable OS to > have advantages :(. Considering a lot of the digital signage industry uses Linux on many screens I suspect it can handle video just fine. Flash in a browser has crap p

[arch-general] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 19/12/11, Ralf Madorf wrote: > PS: I mean, you should ban them using your MUAs filters, but a list > shouldn't do. Whatever the filtering purpose is about, any personal filter fails at the job because answers of others from a filtered mail aren't filtered. It breaks both threads and context.

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Raghavendra D Prabhu wrote: > I use > inline replies too given the circumstances. However, to avoid scrolling > you can try using t-prot for folding. While replying, vim also folds my > messages. This whole discussion has nothing to do with scrolling, most mail c

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 11:43 +0100, Ralf Madorf wrote: > > >What solution will you spread when some people will be tied to hear > > >words like "suck", "fuck" and so? > > Spencer Tracy in "Inherit the Wind" said (I only know the quote in > German, so I might badly translate it): "We should use all

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Ralf Madorf
> >What solution will you spread when some people will be tied to hear > >words like "suck", "fuck" and so? Spencer Tracy in "Inherit the Wind" said (I only know the quote in German, so I might badly translate it): "We should use all words that are in layman's terms, since we don't have much of t

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Raghavendra D Prabhu
Hi, * On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:13:32AM +0100, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: Hi, The 16/12/11, Raghavendra D Prabhu wrote: I am all for bottom posting if it helps the reader of my mail. But, * For instance, I use t-prot to fold the reply, so that I don't have keep scrolling to read

[arch-general] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
Hi, The 16/12/11, Raghavendra D Prabhu wrote: > I am all for bottom posting if it helps the reader of my mail. > But, > > * For instance, I use t-prot to fold the reply, so that I don't have > keep scrolling to read the reply I already know (because mails are > threaded), but I m