On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:51:11 +0800
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> No need for systemd at all :)
As someone that has used Linux exclusively since the very early days
kernel version 0.99-a i have to say
+1 to no need for systemd at allit is just another un-needed
uncalled for over complication of
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On 04/29/12 11:10, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
>>
>> perhaps it is a matter of taste, but i don't think the init system's
>> purpose is to simply "initialize" things. it is a state manager, esp.
>> considering it has abilities no other proces
On 04/29/12 11:10, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:05:54 -0500
>> C Anthony Risinger wrote:
>>
>>> "bloat" is not measured by LOC, but rather by degrees of uselessness.
>> I disagree here. If many don't use/need those fea
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:05:54 -0500
> C Anthony Risinger wrote:
>
>> "bloat" is not measured by LOC, but rather by degrees of uselessness.
>
> I disagree here. If many don't use/need those features aside from an
> init system initialising thi
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 22:27:49 +0200
Tom Gundersen wrote:
> Just a piece of information: the way kernel modules are loaded is not
> changed, currently they are (for most intents and purposes) loaded at
> once.
I didn't know that, annoying. There aren't that many though as I
manually enable them bef
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:05:54 -0500
C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> "bloat" is not measured by LOC, but rather by degrees of uselessness.
>
I disagree here. If many don't use/need those features aside from an
init system initialising things then it is bloat and will have bugs
that will even affect si
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Jan Steffens wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Kevin Chadwick
> wrote:
>> We are going to sacrifice, simplicity, amount of code to look for bugs
>> and most importantly, ease of troubleshooting. One of the beauties of
>> Unix is the error information. A
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> I presume you will be able to get to this journal information even if
> you switch off and access the drive in another machine?
You can configure the journal to be saved to disk and process it on a
different machine later on.
-t
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> Imagine if all drivers loaded at once.
Just a piece of information: the way kernel modules are loaded is not
changed, currently they are (for most intents and purposes) loaded at
once.
-t
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:58:01 +0100
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> but if it just hangs without a panic
I still like KISS for init but thinking about it, The chances of that
are I'd guess next to none, once the drivers are loaded?
I presume you will be able to get to this journal information even if
yo
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:08:34 +0200
Jan Steffens wrote:
> > We are going to sacrifice, simplicity, amount of code to look for bugs
> > and most importantly, ease of troubleshooting. One of the beauties of
> > Unix is the error information. Aren't they all going to be mixed
> > together on systemd.
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