Re: [arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements

2012-07-04 Thread Devon Sawatzky
how about linking to a wiki page that lists and briefly explains each support option, putting the forums first on the list? I'd do that myself, but I'm still new to the Arch community and don't want to break all sorts of rules without meaning to. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:

Re: [arch-general] MPD volume problems after update -> mpd 0.17-1

2012-07-04 Thread Martti Kühne
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 09:25:58AM +1000, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > > That's a horrendous approach to problem solving, really. My advice: let > everything commented in your mpd.conf so that MPD autodetects ALSA... > > -- > Gaetan +1 I am aware I sometimes overlook the obvious. OTOH I tried to answ

Re: [arch-general] MPD volume problems after update -> mpd 0.17-1

2012-07-04 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-04 17:15:37 +0200] Martti Kühne: > I'm sorry, but I find it extremely confusing that you discuss if any of the > clients make a difference on the mpd server's behavior. This was to know whether his issue was client or server side. > There's a section > audio_output in mpd.conf, which pro

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-04 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:06:27 +0100 Mauro Santos wrote: > On 04-07-2012 21:00, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Kevin Chadwick > > wrote: > >>> If you have a > >>> mercurial/git installation even in a small group, I am sure you'll prefer > >>> accurate timestamps in your c

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-04 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I lose about 14 PPM, which amounts to > roughly seven minutes in a year. > Try disabling ntp for a week. Set your clock to atomic manually. By your reckoning you should be out by over eight seconds in a week. Let's see? > Having that kind of discrepancies on a network doing distributed > devel

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-04 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Mauro Santos wrote: > On 04-07-2012 21:00, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: If you have a mercurial/git installation even in a small group, I am sure you'll prefer accurate timestamps in your commit histo

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-04 Thread Mauro Santos
On 04-07-2012 21:00, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >>> If you have a >>> mercurial/git installation even in a small group, I am sure you'll prefer >>> accurate timestamps in your commit history. And the list goes on... >> >> I believe an RTC is perfec

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal

2012-07-04 Thread Linas
On 04/07/12 00:43, Dave Reisner wrote: > On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 06:42:09AM +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: >> On the flip side, most custom kernel users should be more savvy than the >> average, do I don't see much of a problem. I maintain two aur kennels, >> shall I implement the move now (seems like it'

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-04 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> If you have a >> mercurial/git installation even in a small group, I am sure you'll prefer >> accurate timestamps in your commit history. And the list goes on... > > I believe an RTC is perfectly capable of that. I tried to find some data o

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-04 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> If you have a > mercurial/git installation even in a small group, I am sure you'll prefer > accurate timestamps in your commit history. And the list goes on... > I believe an RTC is perfectly capable of that. > > > > Some distros like Ubuntu seem to assume (or did) that no one would ever > >

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-04 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 16:42:04 +0100 Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > What I mean by similar to is if it doesn't benefit you, > > > you will have less bugs and a more stable and secure system by reducing > > > code usage. > > > > Are you just saying that people who don't need an NTP daemon are better

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-04 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > What I mean by similar to is if it doesn't benefit you, > > you will have less bugs and a more stable and secure system by reducing > > code usage. > > Are you just saying that people who don't need an NTP daemon are better > off not running one? Yep and many who think they do need one may

Re: [arch-general] Glibc 2.16 bad effect on some software ?

2012-07-04 Thread Ionut Biru
On 07/04/2012 12:13 PM, fredbezies wrote: > Hello. > > I'm used to build every days or every two days mozilla firefox from > its trunk source code. > > Today, after glibc 2.16 upgrade on testing, after a successful build > process, I got an error message while trying to package mozilla > firefox

Re: [arch-general] MPD volume problems after update -> mpd 0.17-1

2012-07-04 Thread Martti Kühne
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 12:20:40PM +1000, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > [2012-07-03 22:11:18 -0400] Sébastien le Preste de Vauban: > > I tried with ncmpc and got the same results, I will check my alsa > > and mpd configs files. > > Feel free to open a bug report against MPD if this persists (or even > AL

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-04 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-04 12:05:18 +0100] Kevin Chadwick: > What I mean by similar to is if it doesn't benefit you, > you will have less bugs and a more stable and secure system by reducing > code usage. Are you just saying that people who don't need an NTP daemon are better off not running one? [2012-07-04 1

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-04 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > I think I've been quite clear, similar to negative coding. > > You haven't, similar to people spreading FUD. > > Feel free to share your deep knowledge and thorough understanding of NTP > with us ignorants by contributing to this neat little project you might > have heard of, Wikipedia: >

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-04 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > I think I've been quite clear, similar to negative coding. > > You haven't, similar to people spreading FUD. > > Feel free to share your deep knowledge and thorough understanding of NTP > with us ignorants by contributing to this neat little project you might > have heard of, Wikipedia: >

Re: [arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM

2012-07-04 Thread Brock York
On the arch wiki it tells how to setup journald with syslog https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#Systemd_Journal and Sébastien Leblanc it also tells you how to enable syslog-ng in systemd on the link above it's systemctl enable syslog-ng.service Hope this helps abit :)

Re: [arch-general] Can't suspend or hibernate

2012-07-04 Thread Brock York
That's a good idea to try atleast Martin, I have also seen some really weird behaviour because of powersupplies that are faulty. One minute the pc works fine then ram disappears on next boot and you think it's faulty ram, then the hdds will disappear completely must be the board and in the end it's

Re: [arch-general] Can't suspend or hibernate

2012-07-04 Thread Martin Cigorraga
On 29 June 2012 08:48, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote: > > I can suspend and hibernate but my computer can't boot after a /sudo > pm-hibernate/. Not sure why, anyway If I unplug it from the power source > for a couple of seconds, then it will boot again almost normally > (sometimes I get a

Re: [arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM

2012-07-04 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Alexandre Isoard wrote: > > Read man pages of systemd. This will avoid a lot of struggling. > > From "man 8 systemd-journald": > >> By default the journal stores log data in /run/log/journal/. Since >> /run/ is volatile log data is lost at reboot. To make the data >

Re: [arch-general] MPD volume problems after update -> mpd 0.17-1

2012-07-04 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-04 11:32:18 +0200] Bjoern Franke: > Am Dienstag, den 03.07.2012, 21:23 -0400 schrieb Sébastien le Preste de > Vauban: > > if I attempt to change the volume of the current song being played by > > mpd (tested with ncmpcpp and sonata), the volume gets muted, no sound > > can be heard. Thi

Re: [arch-general] MPD volume problems after update -> mpd 0.17-1

2012-07-04 Thread Bjoern Franke
Am Dienstag, den 03.07.2012, 21:23 -0400 schrieb Sébastien le Preste de Vauban: > if I attempt to change the volume of the current song being played by > mpd (tested with ncmpcpp and sonata), the volume gets muted, no sound > can be heard. This did not happen with older version of mpd 0.16.x. I

[arch-general] Glibc 2.16 bad effect on some software ?

2012-07-04 Thread fredbezies
Hello. I'm used to build every days or every two days mozilla firefox from its trunk source code. Today, after glibc 2.16 upgrade on testing, after a successful build process, I got an error message while trying to package mozilla firefox : /bin/sh : line 1 : 22172 Segmentation fault /home/fred/

Re: [arch-general] Installing to RAID .. cannot reboot

2012-07-04 Thread Guus Snijders
2012/7/3 D. R. Evans : > Guus Snijders said the following at 07/03/2012 01:57 PM : > >> In the case of fresh install; would it be an option to start over from >> scratch? > > This was a fresh install. [...] > I am wondering if the problem is something crazy like the fact that the RAID > pair I'm u

Re: [arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM

2012-07-04 Thread Alexandre Isoard
Read man pages of systemd. This will avoid a lot of struggling. >From "man 8 systemd-journald": > By default the journal stores log data in /run/log/journal/. Since > /run/ is volatile log data is lost at reboot. To make the data > persistent it is sufficient to create /var/log/journal/ where > s