Re: [arch-general] Upgrading password hashes

2012-07-10 Thread Yclept Nemo
By the way, is it possible to upgrade password hashes without an intermediate password, assuming the new/old passwords are identical?

[arch-general] systemd fails to set console font

2012-07-10 Thread pants
Hello, systemd is not setting my console font. The following is the only relevant config I could think of: /etc/vconsole.conf : > KEYMAP=dvorak > FONT=ohsnap6x11r Using the command > setfont ohsnap6x11r works perfectly to change the font to that desired. Cheers, pants.

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.16 -- just what is supposed to be in /lib now ??

2012-07-10 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/12 20:52, David C. Rankin wrote: > And what is /usr and /lib as _separate_ partitions on the main box? > softlinks won't work across partition boundaries -- so what then? Tom is right. You're thinking of *hard* links, which I think don't work

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.16 -- just what is supposed to be in /lib now ??

2012-07-10 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:52 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > So then since /lib is very much still a directory and not a symlink, then I > should: First, notice that /lib as a symlink is only in testing so far, so that might explain why you haven't seen it yet. It could be that your problem is unr

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.16 -- just what is supposed to be in /lib now ??

2012-07-10 Thread David C. Rankin
On 07/10/2012 04:12 PM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:15 PM, David C. Rankin > wrote: >> > Guys, >> > >> > I have read the recent thread about glibc problems and I am totally >> > confused about what I am still supposed to have in /lib... > Nothing, but everything: > Both

Re: [arch-general] ConsoleKit replaced by systemd

2012-07-10 Thread Karol Babioch
Hi, Am 10.07.2012 19:47, schrieb Tom Gundersen: > Hopefully more packages (upstream) will eventually allow both > consolekit and systemd support to be compiled in, and the choice be > made at runtime. Ok, makes sense. I can totally live with ConsoleKit for now, just wanted to make sure that you de

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.16 -- just what is supposed to be in /lib now ??

2012-07-10 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:15 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > > I have read the recent thread about glibc problems and I am totally > confused about what I am still supposed to have in /lib... Nothing, but everything: Both "/lib" and "/lib64" should be symlinks to "usr/lib". If they are di

Re: [arch-general] ConsoleKit replaced by systemd

2012-07-10 Thread Jameson
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: > Ubuntu has made the point clear that it does not plan to switch to systemd. > Ever. As I understand it that decision most likely revolved around the investment they had already made in, and control they have over upstart. =-Jameson

[arch-general] glibc 2.16 -- just what is supposed to be in /lib now ??

2012-07-10 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, I have read the recent thread about glibc problems and I am totally confused about what I am still supposed to have in /lib... Currently something is broken with glibc because after update, the tdebase package (kdebase for trinity) fails to build from source with the following: Scann

Re: [arch-general] ConsoleKit replaced by systemd

2012-07-10 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > A lot of dependencies needs to be removed, so I'll wait until Arch, > Debian and Ubuntu completely switched to systemd. > Ubuntu has made the point clear that it does not plan to switch to systemd. Ever. Anyway, I'm inclined to think that th

Re: [arch-general] ConsoleKit replaced by systemd

2012-07-10 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: > Just recently I've realized that ConsoleKit is not maintained actively > anymore and the focus is on systemd right now (see [1]). This is already > mentioned in the wiki [2]. > > Unfortunately I couldn't find any statement as to whether Arch

Re: [arch-general] ConsoleKit replaced by systemd

2012-07-10 Thread Ionut Biru
On 07/10/2012 08:37 PM, Ray Kohler wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm about to set up a new machine and want to make use of systemd. >> Currently I'm reading up on the topic as systemd changes quite a lot of >> things. >> >> Just recently I've realized

Re: [arch-general] ConsoleKit replaced by systemd

2012-07-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 19:23 +0200, Karol Babioch wrote: > I'm wondering whether there has been some discussion over that already? IIRC not on that List. Some weeks ago I again mentioned that there's an annoying bug/feature for console-kit on Debian user mailing list. Somebody informed me about sys

Re: [arch-general] ConsoleKit replaced by systemd

2012-07-10 Thread Ray Kohler
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: > Hi, > > I'm about to set up a new machine and want to make use of systemd. > Currently I'm reading up on the topic as systemd changes quite a lot of > things. > > Just recently I've realized that ConsoleKit is not maintained actively > anymor

[arch-general] ConsoleKit replaced by systemd

2012-07-10 Thread Karol Babioch
Hi, I'm about to set up a new machine and want to make use of systemd. Currently I'm reading up on the topic as systemd changes quite a lot of things. Just recently I've realized that ConsoleKit is not maintained actively anymore and the focus is on systemd right now (see [1]). This is already me

Re: [arch-general] Mutt + offlineimap can't receive Gmail??

2012-07-10 Thread Alexander van den Berghe
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:02:23 +0800, zhugehonghn wrote: > I set mutt+offlineimap receive my Gmail > my .offlineimaprc is: > /[general] > ui = Blinkenlights > accounts = GMail > > [Account GMail] > localrepository = Gmail-Local > remoterepository = Gmail-Remote > > [Repository Gmail-Local] > type

Re: [arch-general] Mutt + offlineimap can't receive Gmail??

2012-07-10 Thread Gavin Costello
On 10-07-2012 23.02, zhugehonghn wrote: > I set mutt+offlineimap receive my Gmail > my .offlineimaprc is: > /[general] > ui = Blinkenlights > accounts = GMail > > [Account GMail] > localrepository = Gmail-Local > remoterepository = Gmail-Remote > > [Repository Gmail-Local] > type = Maildir > loca

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 07/10/2012 05:09 PM, Guus Snijders wrote: 2012/7/10 Jameson : On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Kwpolska wrote: Isn’t that contrary to your plan? You want to use easier, lighter and more KISS software. And you want to switch to systemd. Which is anywhere near KISS. I probably shouldn't

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Guus Snijders
2012/7/10 Jameson : > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Kwpolska wrote: >> Isn’t that contrary to your plan? You want to use easier, lighter and >> more KISS software. And you want to switch to systemd. Which is >> anywhere near KISS. > > I probably shouldn't even go here, but IMHO, having one

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 07/10/2012 04:57 PM, Alexandre Ferrando wrote: On 10 July 2012 16:56, Arno Gaboury wrote: With systemd-tools replacing udev, I thought it was a first step to move later to systemd. Then I remember a very long discussion on this list about a potential move to systemd. I shall have misanderst

[arch-general] Mutt + offlineimap can't receive Gmail??

2012-07-10 Thread zhugehonghn
I set mutt+offlineimap receive my Gmail my .offlineimaprc is: /[general] ui = Blinkenlights accounts = GMail [Account GMail] localrepository = Gmail-Local remoterepository = Gmail-Remote [Repository Gmail-Local] type = Maildir localfolders = ~/Mails/Gmail [Repository Gmail-Remote] type = Gmail

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Alexandre Ferrando
On 10 July 2012 16:56, Arno Gaboury wrote: > With systemd-tools replacing udev, I thought it was a first step to move > later to systemd. Then I remember a very long discussion on this list about > a potential move to systemd. I shall have misanderstood then! Wrong. That was because of upstream

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 07/10/2012 04:50 PM, Nicholas MIller wrote: On Jul 10, 2012 9:47 AM, "Arno Gaboury" wrote: On 07/10/2012 04:42 PM, Kwpolska wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: On 07/10/2012 04:19 PM, gt wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:47:48PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear l

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Nicholas MIller
On Jul 10, 2012 9:47 AM, "Arno Gaboury" wrote: > > On 07/10/2012 04:42 PM, Kwpolska wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: >>> >>> On 07/10/2012 04:19 PM, gt wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:47:48PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: > > Dear list > >

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 07/10/2012 04:42 PM, Kwpolska wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: On 07/10/2012 04:19 PM, gt wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:47:48PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear list I am switching lots of my GUI apps to CLI ones. Currently, I am moving from Clemetine music p

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Jameson
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Kwpolska wrote: > Isn’t that contrary to your plan? You want to use easier, lighter and > more KISS software. And you want to switch to systemd. Which is > anywhere near KISS. I probably shouldn't even go here, but IMHO, having one program start and stop stuff

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Kwpolska
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: > On 07/10/2012 04:19 PM, gt wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:47:48PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: >>> >>> Dear list >>> >>> I am switching lots of my GUI apps to CLI ones. >>> Currently, I am moving from Clemetine music player to ncmpcpp.

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 07/10/2012 04:19 PM, gt wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:47:48PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear list I am switching lots of my GUI apps to CLI ones. Currently, I am moving from Clemetine music player to ncmpcpp. [snip] So, when are you switching to mutt :P Oh la la!! It is on my list! Sha

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 07/10/2012 04:19 PM, gt wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:47:48PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear list I am switching lots of my GUI apps to CLI ones. Currently, I am moving from Clemetine music player to ncmpcpp. [snip] So, when are you switching to mutt :P Oh la la!! It is on my list! Sha

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread gt
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:47:48PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: > Dear list > > I am switching lots of my GUI apps to CLI ones. > Currently, I am moving from Clemetine music player to ncmpcpp. > [snip] So, when are you switching to mutt :P

Re: [arch-general] [SOLVED]mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 07/10/2012 01:55 PM, Ben Darby wrote: * Arno Gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: >user "mpd" audio_output { type"pulse" name"pulse audio" Using mpd & pulse you need to run mpd as the same user that you're logged in with and accessin

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Ben Darby
* Arno Gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: >user "mpd" > >audio_output { > >type"pulse" > >name"pulse audio" Using mpd & pulse you need to run mpd as the same user that you're logged in with and accessing pulse with on the desktop. -- be

[arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

2012-07-10 Thread Arno Gaboury
Dear list I am switching lots of my GUI apps to CLI ones. Currently, I am moving from Clemetine music player to ncmpcpp. My*mpd.conf *shall have some incorrect settings, as *mpd.log *returns this error: Jul 10 13:04 : avahi: Service 'Music Player' successfully established. No protocol specif

Re: [arch-general] Why Multiple Forums for different issues? Arch Linux/ARM?

2012-07-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 11:06 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > My suggestion (which I also brought up further down in this thread) is > that you *slightly* distinguish your project from Arch Linux by adding a > small change to the logo. The word "ARM" in small letters in the lower > right corner of the

Re: [arch-general] Why Multiple Forums for different issues? Arch Linux/ARM?

2012-07-10 Thread John K Pate
> Now, what's the confusion here? People seem to think that you are part > of the main Arch Linux project and are thus confused as to why you have > separate forums. I've only seen one person express confusion on this point... is this really a problem? -- John K Pate http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.u

Re: [arch-general] Why Multiple Forums for different issues? Arch Linux/ARM?

2012-07-10 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.07.2012 22:03, schrieb Kevin Mihelich: > Around March/April 2011, we contacted Aaron Griffin and got > explicit permission to rename our distribution to Arch Linux ARM since we > were rapidly expanding our focus from plug computers to a wide variety of > ARM platforms, and had also brought ou

Re: [arch-general] Why Multiple Forums for different issues? Arch Linux/ARM?

2012-07-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 19:54 +0200, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am 09.07.2012 18:44, schrieb Tom Gundersen: > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:21 PM, David C. Rankin > > wrote: > >> On 07/09/2012 11:16 AM, Daniel Wallace wrote: > >>> > >>> Because Archlinuxarm is unsupported by Archlinux. it is a seperate >

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] heads up: /lib removal

2012-07-10 Thread Dmitry Korzhevin
09.07.2012 01:15, Arno Gaboury пишет: > On 07/07/2012 07:28 PM, Geert Hendrickx wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 13:25:29 -0400, Dave Reisner wrote: >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Allan pushed glib 2.16-2 into [testing] which removes /lib as a >>> directory, replacing it with a symlink. A bit of advice... >