Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Ismael Bouya
(Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 09:51:10PM -0300) Hugo Osvaldo Barrera : > Can the machine download emails from a remote server? > You could set something up that downloads emails from a certain mailbox, > validates they're PGP signature, and runs the body as a shell script. > Tedious, but it works. Yes (I

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Ismael Bouya
(Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 07:00:41PM +0100) Rodrigo Rivas : > My guess here is that this "secure" network is full of non-upgraded > (Windows?) machines, and security is attained exclusively by network > isolation. No they are all on linux. The problem here is that it creates a lot of problem for work:

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
On 2014-02-11 13:17, Ismael Bouya wrote: > (Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:56:39PM +0100) Florian Pritz : > > On 11.02.2014 11:42, Ismael Bouya wrote: > > > It's highly unpractical to me to access the machine from where I am -- > > > even remotely: I need someone to manually open a tunnel each time I want

Re: [arch-general] Arch VM + QEMU/KVM + libvirt + Systemd

2014-02-11 Thread arnaud gaboury
> > Then I installed Arch with pacstrap on /dahlia. No bootloader but > Linux (i will remove the last one later as I want to share the kernel > with the host). After many errors due to some missing libs, > installation went fine. > > I managed everything about cgroups, even spent hours on > /etc/cg

Re: [arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.

2014-02-11 Thread Kyle
According to Curtis Shimamoto: # I think you've missed what Kyle is saying here. From what I understand # (as a non-blind user), traditional captchas that are super hard to read # and easily deciphered by computers are what tend to not be usable by the # visually impaired. # # The captcha that we

Re: [arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.

2014-02-11 Thread Bigby James
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 08:27:15AM -0800, Curtis Shimamoto wrote: > On 02/11/14 at 10:11am, Bigby James wrote: > > On Mon Feb 10 12:20:45 EST 2014 Kyle wrote: > > > I'll take a little frustration of non-linux using normal > > > human beings over a captcha that completely excludes visually impaired

Re: [arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.

2014-02-11 Thread Randall D
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 07:00:51PM +, Mauro Santos wrote: > On 11-02-2014 01:48, Don deJuan wrote: > > What is confusing about that? The devs have no desire to be popular or > > the coolest kid on the block or to be on every box in the world. > > > > I'm not sure, I've seen a world domination

Re: [arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.

2014-02-11 Thread Don deJuan
On 02/11/2014 11:00 AM, Mauro Santos wrote: > On 11-02-2014 01:48, Don deJuan wrote: >> What is confusing about that? The devs have no desire to be popular or >> the coolest kid on the block or to be on every box in the world. >> > I'm not sure, I've seen a world domination plan mentioned a few tim

Re: [arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.

2014-02-11 Thread Mauro Santos
On 11-02-2014 01:48, Don deJuan wrote: > What is confusing about that? The devs have no desire to be popular or > the coolest kid on the block or to be on every box in the world. > I'm not sure, I've seen a world domination plan mentioned a few times but I don't know the status of that. [1] http

Re: [arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.

2014-02-11 Thread Alex Jordan
(Top-posting because I'm not replying to anyone in particular.) One thing that we could do is suggest registering for the forum in the Beginner's Guide. The logic being that you should do it while your box is still working, just in case. On Feb 11, 2014 8:27 AM, "Curtis Shimamoto" wrote: > On 02

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:19 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > On 02/11/2014 07:17 AM, Ismael Bouya wrote: > >> That's not an option. The network on which the machine is is willingly >> inaccessible from outside: The sysadmin there has the principle that "a >> machine that works shouldn't be upgrade

Re: [arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.

2014-02-11 Thread Curtis Shimamoto
On 02/11/14 at 10:11am, Bigby James wrote: > On Mon Feb 10 12:20:45 EST 2014 Kyle wrote: > > I'll take a little frustration of non-linux using normal > > human beings over a captcha that completely excludes visually impaired > > normal human beings any day. > > I can understand your concern and ap

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 02/11/2014 07:17 AM, Ismael Bouya wrote: That's not an option. The network on which the machine is is willingly inaccessible from outside: The sysadmin there has the principle that "a machine that works shouldn't be upgraded, because then it can break" Then your sysadmin is incompetent, sinc

Re: [arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.

2014-02-11 Thread Bigby James
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 01:16:15AM +, Jeremy Nicoll - ml archlinux wrote: > WorMzy Tykashi wrote: > > >On 11 February 2014 00:00, Jeremy Nicoll - ml archlinux > > wrote: > >> > > > I've been lurking on this maillist for maybe a year, after reading > > > somewhere that Arch might be a good sol

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Ismael Bouya
> How about establishing regular maintenance intervals? > > This way, the VPN could be active on these times for you to use and be > disabled the rest of the time. Depending on the setup, this could be easily > automated. If i understand the admin correctly, he'll be happy with the > fixed timing

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Guus Snijders
Op 11 feb. 2014 13:17 schreef "Ismael Bouya" het volgende: > > (Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:56:39PM +0100) Florian Pritz : > > On 11.02.2014 11:42, Ismael Bouya wrote: > > > It's highly unpractical to me to access the machine from where I am -- > > > even remotely: I need someone to manually open a tu

Re: [arch-general] Permanently allow root access

2014-02-11 Thread Damjan
On вто, 11 фев 2014 13:41:08 CET, Martti Kühne wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Damjan wrote: why don't you just use sudo? $ sudo env ... DISPLAY=:0 XAUTHORITY=/home/damjan/.Xauthority ... those are propagated by default (I don't remember setting this up) -- дамјан Well... locally

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Al O'Nerd
You could setup a cron job on that server that checks for a specific code in a dropbox directory, or in an email account, and when received, it deletes the {mail|file} and activates a SSH tunnel or a VPN with which you can connect to. All you should have to do when you want to connect is send the e

Re: [arch-general] Permanently allow root access

2014-02-11 Thread Martti Kühne
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Damjan wrote: > > why don't you just use sudo? > > $ sudo env > ... > DISPLAY=:0 > XAUTHORITY=/home/damjan/.Xauthority > ... > > those are propagated by default (I don't remember setting this up) > > > -- > дамјан Well... locally, at least, that's exactly why I ne

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Ismael Bouya
(Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 01:29:30PM +0100) Constantin : > You could establish a VPN/tunnel originating from the server you want to > update. That way, from the machine's view, it is an outgoing connection > and might not be restricted by the firewall. You can then use the > existing tunnel to ssh back

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Constantin
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 01:17:22PM +0100, Ismael Bouya wrote: > That's not an option. The network on which the machine is is willingly > inaccessible from outside: The sysadmin there has the principle that "a > machine that works shouldn't be upgraded, because then it can > break"... (The machine w

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Ismael Bouya
(Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 01:20:12PM +0100) pala...@jstation.cz : > >That's not an option. The network on which the machine is is willingly > >inaccessible from outside: The sysadmin there has the principle that "a > >machine that works shouldn't be upgraded, because then it can > >break"... > > That'

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread paladin
On 2014-02-11 13:17, Ismael Bouya wrote: (Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:56:39PM +0100) Florian Pritz : On 11.02.2014 11:42, Ismael Bouya wrote: > It's highly unpractical to me to access the machine from where I am -- > even remotely: I need someone to manually open a tunnel each time I want > to acces

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Ismael Bouya
(Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:56:39PM +0100) Florian Pritz : > On 11.02.2014 11:42, Ismael Bouya wrote: > > It's highly unpractical to me to access the machine from where I am -- > > even remotely: I need someone to manually open a tunnel each time I want > > to access the machine -- > > Set up an auto

Re: [arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Florian Pritz
On 11.02.2014 11:42, Ismael Bouya wrote: > It's highly unpractical to me to access the machine from where I am -- > even remotely: I need someone to manually open a tunnel each time I want > to access the machine -- Set up an automatic tunnel (simple service that just runs autossh or similar) or u

[arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade

2014-02-11 Thread Ismael Bouya
Hi, I know it is highly discouraged and that it can break the machine, but I have a good reason to do it anyway: It's highly unpractical to me to access the machine from where I am -- even remotely: I need someone to manually open a tunnel each time I want to access the machine --, and the other pe

Re: [arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.

2014-02-11 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 11 February 2014 09:16, Jeremy Nicoll - ml archlinux wrote: > WorMzy Tykashi wrote: > >>On 11 February 2014 00:00, Jeremy Nicoll - ml archlinux >> wrote: >>> >> > I've been lurking on this maillist for maybe a year, after reading >> > somewhere that Arch might be a good solution for me as a li