Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Tobias Hunger
On Sep 15, 2014 1:56 AM, "Leonid Isaev" wrote: > systemd's factory reset and atomic upgrades were explicitly stated to be useful > only in special situations, like embedded systems. Just because Archlinux > systemd package enables them doesn't mean that the entire distribution should > be change a

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Tobias Hunger
On Sep 15, 2014 1:02 AM, "Nowaker" wrote: > 1. Where is your data stored? /home? Or is it stored remotely? It depends. My server has its RAID arrays mounted for its data. My desktop on the other hand basically just has /home for storage. That is exactly what I need to back up. > 2. How about d

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Tobias Hunger
Am 15.09.2014 00:54 schrieb "Nowaker" : > Good point. I just did `pacman -Ql |grep -F ' /var'` to see how many > files there are. 99.7% of them are directories only, though. Are > tmpfiles.d supposed to create directories in /var too? Docs mention > using tmpfiles.d to init /tmp or /run, not /var t

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:53:40AM +0200, Nowaker wrote: > Good point. I just did `pacman -Ql |grep -F ' /var'` to see how many > files there are. 99.7% of them are directories only, though. Are > tmpfiles.d supposed to create directories in /var too? Docs mention > using tmpfiles.d to init /tmp or

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Nowaker
Thanks Tobias, I think I understand it. I've got a few questions: 1. Where is your data stored? /home? Or is it stored remotely? 2. How about downtimes? Do you do something about it, or just don't need HA? If you do, do you keep a different VM running before your new VM starts? (Then I guess you

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Nowaker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> At this point /var/lib/pacman/local defines the current state of >> /usr. It's not "variable" - you write to /var/lib/pacman/local if >> and only if you write to /usr. The description of /usr on wiki >> perfectly describes why /var/lib/pacman/local

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Tobias Hunger
Hi Nowaker, I am the one with the images, not Yamakaky:-) On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Nowaker wrote: > What are these significant changes more than just the pacman database > that would make users go through trouble? In #41863 I see three parts: > > - move /var/lib/pacman/local/ to /usr >

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:15:13PM +0200, Nowaker wrote: > At this point /var/lib/pacman/local defines the current state of /usr. > It's not "variable" - you write to /var/lib/pacman/local if and only if > you write to /usr. The description of /usr on wiki perfectly describes > why /var/lib/pacman/

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Nowaker
Hey guys, I'm developing VirtKick (www.virtkick.io) and the very first supported hypervisor will be Arch Linux. "Factory reset" feature would really fit my use case. > There's really no sense in the Arch devs and all Arch users go through > the trouble, from what I can see. You're asking everyone

Re: [arch-general] ncmpcpp 0.6beta2-1

2014-09-14 Thread lolilolicon
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:59 AM, tlux wrote: > Thank you for your constructive reply. Is this sarcasm? I do think beta software can be destructive, though.

Re: [arch-general] ncmpcpp 0.6beta2-1

2014-09-14 Thread lolilolicon
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Manolo Martínez wrote: > From the manual (which I did read prior to asking): > > "When ncmpcpp starts, it tries to read user's keybindings from > ~/.ncmpcpp/keys file. If no user's keybindings is found, ncmpcpp uses Ah, you use ~/.ncmpcpp/bindings instead no

Re: [arch-general] ncmpcpp 0.6beta2-1

2014-09-14 Thread tlux
On 15/09, lolilolicon wrote: > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, tlux wrote: > > - the key bindings functionality has been redesign so as to use a bindings > > file located at /usr/share/doc/ncmpcpp which may be copied to your > > $XDG_CONFIG_HOME directory and then amended to suit your

Re: [arch-general] ncmpcpp 0.6beta2-1

2014-09-14 Thread Manolo Martínez
Thanks a lot for the info! > - the play, stop, pause, toggle, etc... command line arguments has > been removed on purpose. See [1]. The workaround I am using now is to > install mpc [2] and use it in all my scripts that was using the related > ncmpcpp's command line argument > >

Re: [arch-general] ncmpcpp 0.6beta2-1

2014-09-14 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 09/15/14 at 12:34am, lolilolicon wrote: > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, tlux wrote: > > - the key bindings functionality has been redesign so as to use a bindings > > file located at /usr/share/doc/ncmpcpp which may be copied to your > > $XDG_CONFIG_HOME directory and then amended

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Conrad Nelson
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 19:23 +0200, Yamakaky wrote: > Le 14/09/2014 19:17, Yamakaky a écrit : > >> With factory reset you always know how to undo your own changes, > >> getting back to the default state. That works for either all > >> changes ever done to the system (factory reset) or selectively by

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Yamakaky
Le 14/09/2014 19:17, Yamakaky a écrit : With factory reset you always know how to undo your own changes, getting back to the default state. That works for either all changes ever done to the system (factory reset) or selectively by just removing the configuration files you tweaked last. With de

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Yamakaky
With factory reset you always know how to undo your own changes, getting back to the default state. That works for either all changes ever done to the system (factory reset) or selectively by just removing the configuration files you tweaked last. Woh, I didn't thought about it, it's pretty cool

Re: [arch-general] ncmpcpp 0.6beta2-1

2014-09-14 Thread lolilolicon
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, tlux wrote: > - the key bindings functionality has been redesign so as to use a bindings > file located at /usr/share/doc/ncmpcpp which may be copied to your > $XDG_CONFIG_HOME directory and then amended to suit your needs. Except ncmpcpp does not use X

Re: [arch-general] ncmpcpp 0.6beta2-1

2014-09-14 Thread tlux
On 14/09, Manolo Martínez wrote: > Hi, > > Since the upgrade of nmcpcpp to 0.6beta2 yesterday, custom keybindings > no longer work, and the commandline subcommands (most importantly for > me, `ncmpcpp toggle`) have stopped working as well. Downgrading to > 0.5.10 solve these issues. > > Perhaps

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Bigby James
On 09/14, Tobias Hunger wrote: > > Factory reset is great, especially for a distro involving a lot of > manual tweaking like arch:-) > With factory reset you always know how to undo your own changes, > getting back to the > default state. That works for either all changes ever done to the > system

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Neven Sajko
> Moving the pacman DB is one step to make such a setup a bit more easy > to create and It does > not effect the traditional use case at all. That's why I suggested putting it in a separate bugreport; it gets accepted more easily, and then less change is needed for 41863. On 14 September 2014 11:

[arch-general] ncmpcpp 0.6beta2-1

2014-09-14 Thread Manolo Martínez
Hi, Since the upgrade of nmcpcpp to 0.6beta2 yesterday, custom keybindings no longer work, and the commandline subcommands (most importantly for me, `ncmpcpp toggle`) have stopped working as well. Downgrading to 0.5.10 solve these issues. Perhaps the package should stay at the last stable releas

Re: [arch-general] Location of the pacman database

2014-09-14 Thread Tobias Hunger
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > Yeah, that's what the 1st response in the bug report basically said: pacman DB > location is a cosmetic detail. No, it is not: /var will be wiped, so having the pacman DB there is not a good idea. > Also, note that systemd features like fact