[arch-general] What is the archlinux-bootstrap-2015.08.01?

2015-08-13 Thread David C. Rankin
All, In preparation for the motherboard change, I went to grab the latest netinstall-dual.iso and found the normal iso and then an 'archlinux-bootstrap' iso. Is the bootstrap iso the single architecture netinstall? I've checked the install, beginner's and download, but only found referenc

Re: [arch-general] What is the archlinux-bootstrap-2015.08.01?

2015-08-13 Thread ProgAndy
Am 13.08.2015 um 09:54 schrieb David C. Rankin: All, In preparation for the motherboard change, I went to grab the latest netinstall-dual.iso and found the normal iso and then an 'archlinux-bootstrap' iso. Is the bootstrap iso the single architecture netinstall? I've checked the install

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Evan Penner
On 08/12/2015 05:02 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:36:22PM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: >> >>> It's been hashed and rehashed, but I need to bring this up again. Every >>> other popular distro has a way of debugging without completely >>> rebuilding a >>> package, saving countle

Re: [arch-general] motherboard change - strategies for saving current install?

2015-08-13 Thread Ɓukasz Michalski
On 08/13/2015 04:53 AM, Christian Demsar wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: "can I boot the install media, assemble raid arrays, chroot old and update, or do I just dump the root partition and reinstall completely?" You'll need to reinstall, I think. According to

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: > >> I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging enabled > >> by > >> default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but speed is not > >> crucial in > >> most cases. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > > > > There's no perf

Re: [arch-general] motherboard change - strategies for saving current install?

2015-08-13 Thread Aaron Laws
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:15 AM, David C. Rankin < drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > > Aaron, the board is a GA-990FXA-UD3, and I will be making use of SATA > 5/6 (6 drives total), so I'll report back on any difficulties with the last > two drives. My current board (MSI k9n2 SLI platinum)

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Evan Penner
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: > > >> I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging > enabled > > >> by > > >> default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but speed is not > > >> crucial

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 06:47 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging enabled by default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but speed is not crucial in most cases. Cheers, There's no

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 06:55 AM, Evan Penner wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging enabled by default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but s

Re: [arch-general] motherboard change - strategies for saving current install?

2015-08-13 Thread Aaron Laws
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Aaron Laws wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:15 AM, David C. Rankin < > drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Aaron, the board is a GA-990FXA-UD3, and I will be making use of SATA >> 5/6 (6 drives total), so I'll report back on any difficulties with th

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:09:00AM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: > >>Bandwidth is probably the main problem, although anyone who wants to debug > >>will probably be fine with that. > >I think you guys misunderstood me. The biggest problem IMHO with building > >debug > >versions locally is not compiling

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 10:58 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:09:00AM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: Bandwidth is probably the main problem, although anyone who wants to debug will probably be fine with that. I think you guys misunderstood me. The biggest problem IMHO with building debug ver

Re: [arch-general] motherboard change - strategies for saving current install?

2015-08-13 Thread Jens Adam
Thu, 13 Aug 2015 13:43:24 -0400 Aaron Laws : > In BIOS, you can set SATA 4-5 (they're numbered base-zero) to > "IDE" rather than "SATA". I assume this means something like the > motherboard expects there to be a SATA->IDE adapter in there. No, that means you're setting those ports to "IDE" / "Leg

Re: [arch-general] motherboard change - strategies for saving current install?

2015-08-13 Thread David C. Rankin
On 08/13/2015 01:25 PM, Jens Adam wrote: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 13:43:24 -0400 Aaron Laws : In BIOS, you can set SATA 4-5 (they're numbered base-zero) to "IDE" rather than "SATA". I assume this means something like the motherboard expects there to be a SATA->IDE adapter in there. No, that means you

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Doug Newgard
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:09:46 -0700 Joe Julian wrote: > There is a reason the other distros publish the debug symbols. It's > valuable and there's no valid reason not to. AFAIK, right now the reason it can't happen is because nobody has stepped up and added support to devtools for putting split

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 12:37 PM, Doug Newgard wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:09:46 -0700 Joe Julian wrote: There is a reason the other distros publish the debug symbols. It's valuable and there's no valid reason not to. AFAIK, right now the reason it can't happen is because nobody has stepped up and ad

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Damian Nowak
>> AFAIK, right now the reason it can't happen is because nobody has stepped up >> and >> added support to devtools for putting split packages in different repos. >> Nobody >> willing to do the work is a valid reason. > Excellent. I'll tackle that then. Good luck! Let us know about a progress.