Re: [arch-general] Alternative init system proposal

2016-02-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 02/08/2016 07:27 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: > I still don't get what makes OpenRC so great. Doesn't it still depend > entirely on SysV Init? By default it uses sysvinit as PID1. That's all that it does. If it makes you unhappy you can easily use s6 or runit as PID1 ... or write your own. > That AL

Re: [arch-general] Alternative init system proposal

2016-02-10 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:13:49AM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: > Change is not Progress. > > Are you, by chance, confusing sysvinit with debian's sysv-rc or > something similar? A lot of people make two huge mistakes in such debates: 1) sysvinit != Debian's initscripts. 2) sysvinit vs systemd is

Re: [arch-general] Alternative init system proposal

2016-02-10 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 10:33:55PM +0100, Christian Rebischke wrote: > Hello everone, > First of all I want to remind you that systemd is no longer an init system. > Systemd has become to be much more than just starting/stopping some daemons. > You must see systemd with every part. You cannot just

Re: [arch-general] X keeps crashing

2016-02-10 Thread Joakim Hernberg
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 18:55:09 +0100 SET wrote: > I started to have exactly the same problem on my new HP laptop, > complete UI and peripheral freeze. By just pulling out the power > cord, the system instantly becomes responsive again and I can > continue work normally. It won't appear again until

Re: [arch-general] Alternative init system proposal

2016-02-10 Thread Bardur Arantsson
On 02/10/2016 12:53 PM, Jack L. Frost wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 10:33:55PM +0100, Christian Rebischke wrote: >> What does this mean? It means that I prefer a linux distribution that >> supports the newest changes in the linux development. Systemd is one of >> thesee changes. Systemd improve

Re: [arch-general] Alternative init system proposal

2016-02-10 Thread Jack L. Frost
> Other way around: systemd may at some future point depend on a > Linux-only IPC protocol. (One assumes that this would be indirectly via > a DBUS-like client library, but whatever...) My brain went completely derp there, so yeah, disregard that statement. signature.asc Description: PGP signatu

Re: [arch-general] Alternative init system proposal

2016-02-10 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 04:44:34PM +0100, Bardur Arantsson wrote: > "change is not progress" has no bearing on whether systemd is a net > positive or not. The person you responded to explicitly said -- in the > very part you quoted, no less! -- "systemd improves a lot of stuff", so > clearly they'

Re: [arch-general] Alternative init system proposal

2016-02-10 Thread Mike Cloaked
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Ivan wrote: > Hello, I have a proposal for Arch Linux developers and by mailing > on this list I would also appreciate feedback from non-developers that > use Arch Linux. > Note: I am not here to hate on the current status, nor > to disapprove of current Arch choi

[arch-general] Newbie

2016-02-10 Thread Billy Brawner
Hey everyone! I'm new to Arch, just joined up on the forums and IRC channel, figured I'd introduce myself here as well. I use the name Branau around those spaces. Anyway, I'd love to contribute to Arch but I'm afraid my coding knowledge is limited to web languages, since I work as a web developer.

Re: [arch-general] Newbie

2016-02-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Billy, I'm not a trusted Arch whatsoever man so I can't answer your question, but as everybody else you could create an Arch Wiki account and take a look at the Arch Wiki and edit Wiki pages that are related to your domain ;). Regards, Ralf

Re: [arch-general] Newbie

2016-02-10 Thread Billy Brawner
Hey Ralf! As new as I am to Arch, I doubt I'll have much to contribute to the wiki, but I'll take a look. I've been on linux for about a year now so I have some more general Linux knowledge. Thanks! Billy On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi Billy, > > I'm not a trusted Ar

Re: [arch-general] X keeps crashing

2016-02-10 Thread SET
Le mercredi 10 février 2016 14:58:56 CET Joakim Hernberg a écrit : > I think the above line is logged on systems that have both intel > and nvidia gpus... The laptop has 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R6 Graphics] 01:00.0 Display controll

Re: [arch-general] Newbie

2016-02-10 Thread Jens Adam
Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:20:40 -0600 Billy Brawner : Hi Billy, > Is there an Arch Web team? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Archweb --byte pgpC7tFu7mrrW.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP

Re: [arch-general] Newbie

2016-02-10 Thread Sean Greenslade
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:52:38AM -0600, Billy Brawner wrote: > Hey Ralf! > > As new as I am to Arch, I doubt I'll have much to contribute to the wiki, > but I'll take a look. I've been on linux for about a year now so I have > some more general Linux knowledge. > > Thanks! > Billy The Arch Wik

Re: [arch-general] Newbie

2016-02-10 Thread Billy Brawner
Ah, I must've missed that. Thanks! On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, Jens Adam wrote: > Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:20:40 -0600 > Billy Brawner >: > > Hi Billy, > > > Is there an Arch Web team? > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Archweb > > > --byte >

Re: [arch-general] Newbie

2016-02-10 Thread Billy Brawner
Oh that's awesome, I'll definitely peek around then and see if there are any blanks I can help fill in. All the more reason to be on Arch! On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, Sean Greenslade wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:52:38AM -0600, Billy Brawner wrote: > > Hey Ralf! > > > > As new as I am