On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 9:36 PM Eli Schwartz via arch-general
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> But regardless, we very explicitly wanted to *not* use the name "base"
> for recommendations, because it does not make clear that it is in fact
> recommendations.
>
> So the choices were either get rid of the base group and m
Em outubro 10, 2019 17:06 John Crist via arch-general escreveu:
I've submitted `base-extras` to the AUR at
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/base-extras/ that contains the
missing packages from `base` if someone REALLY wants it.
And I have removed it. Following the same criteria, I've als
I want to clarify that I didn't mean "man" requires an internet connection.
Arch does and uses the wiki.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 7:49 PM Nero Claudius Drusus
wrote:
> Let's face the facts. Man is superfluous for most people learning how to
> install Arch, especially since it forces you to have an
Let's face the facts. Man is superfluous for most people learning how to
install Arch, especially since it forces you to have an internet connection
in order to install.
The wiki installation page so far hasn't included any extras other than the
kernel (at least that I've noticed thus far, please
On 10/10/19 9:00 PM, Nero Claudius Drusus via arch-general wrote:
> I've been following this discussion and can't see what the actual problem
> is. I've installed a new system since the change and the installation doc's
> have been updated appropriately. It still works. If you want extra packages
>
I've been following this discussion and can't see what the actual problem
is. I've installed a new system since the change and the installation doc's
have been updated appropriately. It still works. If you want extra packages
then add them, this, in my opinion, is what Arch is designed to do. I'm n
On 10/10/19 7:01 AM, pete via arch-general wrote:
> Never mind Ed Vi Assemblers yes all very fancyfull
> hows about you just include joe far easier wordstar commands no mess just
> worksthe very first thing i ever do install joe best editor of the lot .
I have never heard of "joe". I ha
I am sorry if this is a repeated/dumb question. What exactly does the base
package have? I.e. if i install only base "pacstrap /mnt base", then what
stuff will i get in it?
Knowing this i can decide what stuff i have to install in addition.
On 10/10/19 7:14 AM, Jonathan Steel via arch-general wrote:
> I think we should have created a "minimal" group rather than repurposing
> the base one. Then as a separate issue to tackle, add "kernel" and "editor"
> etc to the base group which would prompt the user to choose, or if
> non-interactive
On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 8:14 AM Jonathan Steel via arch-general
wrote:
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> I think we should have created a "minimal" group rather than repurposing
> the base one. Then as a separate issue to tackle, add "kernel" and "editor"
> etc to the base group which would prompt the user to choose, or if
> n
I've submitted `base-extras` to the AUR at
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/base-extras/ that contains the
missing packages from `base` if someone REALLY wants it.
On 10/10/19 10:14 AM, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
>> > > Everyone should just learn ed(1). :-)
>> >
>> > ed? They should learn how to edit a text file using assembly
Don't take this the wrong way, but if I have to write my own text editor
in assembly (not to mention an assembler and possibly a linker
Hi Pete,
> > > Everyone should just learn ed(1). :-)
> >
> > ed? They should learn how to edit a text file using assembly
>
> Never mind Ed Vi Assemblers yes all very fancyfull
My ed suggestion wasn't a joke. It's probably the smallest editor to
install. It has a long pedigree, it's in POSI
I think we should have created a "minimal" group rather than repurposing
the base one. Then as a separate issue to tackle, add "kernel" and "editor"
etc to the base group which would prompt the user to choose, or if
non-interactive install the first listed.
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Jonathan Steel
Trusted User
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 10:44:08 +0100
Andy Pieters wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 10:41, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> >
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > > Maybe I'm just old
> > ...
> > > everyone should learn at least a few vi commands
> > ...
> > > I still makes me uncomfortable knowing it isn't instal
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 10:41, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
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> Hi Greg,
>
> > Maybe I'm just old
> ...
> > everyone should learn at least a few vi commands
> ...
> > I still makes me uncomfortable knowing it isn't installed by default.
>
> Not old enough! Everyone should just learn ed(1). :-)
>
ed? Th
Hi Greg,
> Maybe I'm just old
...
> everyone should learn at least a few vi commands
...
> I still makes me uncomfortable knowing it isn't installed by default.
Not old enough! Everyone should just learn ed(1). :-)
--
Cheers, Ralph.
Maybe I'm just old but not having a text editor by default in the rootfs
seems wrong. I had a professor once say everyone should learn at least a
few vi commands because "no matter what distro/ flavor of Unix you have to
deal with vi will always be there". I admit one hundred percent that it
doe
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