Re: [arch-general] systemd, running scripts after suspend/hibernate

2012-10-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:28:40 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums : > That's so typical for those Poetterix fanboys and developers. > > Firstly ALSA was blamed for the PulseAudio insufficiencies and bugs. > ALSA was blamed for PulseAudio not working with a lot of professional > audio and

Re: [arch-general] systemd, running scripts after suspend/hibernate

2012-10-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:12:24 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen : > The way I read it is that the sort of problems you would typically > workaround with suspend hooks are best solved somewhere else, probably > in the kernel driver. That's so typical for those Poetterix fanboys and developers. Firstly AL

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:54:04 -0300 schrieb Martín Cigorraga : > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Heiko Baums > wrote: > > > Heiko > > > > > Most of the time is not what you say but rather how you say it - your > tone. The Frenchs have a saying for that: &qu

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:28:20 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > This is not about opinions at all. No, this is about opinions. Well, not only about opinions, also or rather about personal experience. > Everything useful that is to say about this topic has been said. All > that can be added are fla

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:28:40 -0300 schrieb Denis A. Altoé Falqueto : > How long will we have to endure such nonsense? Heiko, you hijacked a > thread just to tell your opinion, which everyone already know from > your previous posts. And, please, don't reply to me. I don't care. > > Thomas, wasn't

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:35:47 +0200 schrieb Øyvind Heggstad : > Don't worry, you are not at fault in any way here, the systemd > hateboy(z)/fudspreader(s) are. Wrong. The systemd fanboys who want to force this crap on everybody else are. The "fudspreaders", as you call them, have already made thei

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:06:28 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > After the recent outbreaks, we have been discussing banning people > from arch-general. At the time, the people we talked about had calmed > down and everything went back to normal, so there was no point in > going forward with it. Howe

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:06:28 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > After the recent outbreaks, we have been discussing banning people > from arch-general. At the time, the people we talked about had calmed > down and everything went back to normal, so there was no point in > going forward with it. Howe

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:28:58 +0200 schrieb "G. Schlisio" : > its ok to tell your opinion, thats not what i mean with trolling. > impertinent exclamations and unconstructive i-always-told-you > allegations do not help anyone to solve the problem. Oh, this can indeed help. And why shouldn't I tell

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:24:09 +0200 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase : > Doesn't seem to be possible with Heiko around. Since nobody seems > happy with banning him, I'm also unsubscribing. So you want to have me banned because you don't like my opinions and experiences, and you don't like that I'm sayin

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:11:12 +0200 schrieb fredbezies : > I was fed up by the crap of the original poster. So I said what need > to be written, even if it was a little hard. > > I will remove myself from this list, because it is no more than crap > because of systemd haters. Oh, other people's o

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:00:59 +0200 schrieb "G. Schlisio" : > please stop trolling on this list. > this is very disturbing and already resultet in devs unsubscribing > from this list. Sorry, but this is not trolling. This is just telling that I told it before, when almost everybody laughed at me a

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:52:01 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae : > Yes. A bash update in [testing] resulted in unbootable systems. I > thought you were around then... maybe it just feels that long. I never used [testing] except for once when I started with Arch. Yes, I once had a serious issue why I s

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:52:10 +0200 schrieb fredbezies : > Just use another distribution. Do you think before you write? What exactly does this have to do with the distribution? Maybe I even would use another distribution if you tell me one Arch like binary distribution which doesn't and never wi

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:15:16 +0200 schrieb fredbezies : > Don't you read the *important* word : testing ! Are you blind ? I read that. And what goes into [testing]? Yes! Bingo! Software version which are released by upstream as *stable*. So yes, upstream was supposed to have this tested before it

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:18:49 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae : > Medical condition? I'm very fine. Thanks. Do I really need to say PulseAudio and Lennart Poettering? And do I really need to say "made my own experiences" (with PA and systemd, btw.). > Because we have never had unbootable systems due t

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900 schrieb Zhengyu Xu : > After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following > messages during booting and the process was stuck (crashed). > > [ 10.539416] systemd[1]: segfault at 7d ip b75a97b7 sp bfb0ece8 > error 4 in libc-2.16.so[b752a000+1a4000

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] fontconfig 2.10.1 will require user interaction

2012-09-06 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:06:57 +0200 schrieb Andreas Radke : > Pacman will detect the symlinks and break before the install scriptlet > will be run. So this is not an option. Did you test it? I'm pretty sure it won't, since I tested this before in one of my AUR packages. Well, it was the removal of

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] fontconfig 2.10.1 will require user interaction

2012-09-06 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:25:06 +0200 schrieb Andreas Radke : > Am Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:02:27 +0200 > schrieb Rémy Oudompheng : > > > I would simply recommend removing the offending files using rm, we > > certainly know the list. > > > > Rémy. > > > > News draft: > > fontconfig 2.10.1 update - manu

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:14:24 -0300 schrieb Tomás Acauan Schertel : > It was working right before last update. What changed? Nothing, unless you haven't changed your locale configuration or a package changed it, but then you would have had at least a *.pacnew file. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:10:01 -0300 schrieb Tomás Acauan Schertel : > Both /etc/locale.conf and /etc/environment have this lines: > > LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 > LC_MESSAGES=C > > And my system (LXDM + XFCE) keeps en_US. No, it uses C, because Xfce unfortunately uses LC_MESSAGES, not LANG, to set its loc

Re: [arch-general] systemd-pulseaudio-no sound card

2012-08-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:32:54 +0200 schrieb Arno Gaboury : > On 29/08/12||13:20, Sébastien Leblanc wrote: > > > My issue comes from permission. On console mod, $ aplay -l returns > > > correctly the devices. When I am on X, it doesn't. > > > > Might be a PolicyKit issue. How do you start your X se

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package

2012-08-27 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 +0200 schrieb Joakim Hernberg : > I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in this case :( Try Xfce. ;-) Heiko

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package

2012-08-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400 schrieb Dave Reisner : > I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed > on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough > audience. Some of you have probably already noticed that systemd 189 > now provides, conflicts,

Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll

2012-08-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:20:47 +0100 schrieb mike cloaked : > Isn't it interesting that the vote is currently 81% support for arch > to switch to systemd (even with the misspelling in the poll), and only > 19% against! Looks like at least from the perspective of this poll > (even with only 237 vote

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:56:57 +1000 schrieb Gaetan Bisson : > Why would any of us care about your personal life? > > ... > > Your head must be such as mess if you can make sense of the above... > > ... > > Do either. And when you have five seconds please reflect on why none > of us would read yo

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:08:53 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > This is a technical mailing list. If you want to discuss technical > topics about Arch, you're in the right place. If you want to state > your _opinion_, get yourself a blog. And if this opinion is about something going on (for the bet

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:22:58 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > So you're saying that instead of fixing the problem, every user should > remove the offending posts. > > The problem here are a small handful of people who start flames and > spread FUD. Banning a handful of people from the list is an

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:21:01 +0200 schrieb Damjan : > not to worry, the whole world of free software developers (including > Arch) are here and have all the time to serve your wishes. Have you thought about that comment before sending it? Heiko

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:56:49 +0200 schrieb Jelle van der Waa : > Sure soon RHEL will switch to systemd with RHEL 7, so the systemd > market share will probably continue to grow. Also SUSE seems to > switch to systemd. With these major distro's taking up systemd, it's > almost impossible that it's

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:02:03 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen : > Issues, serious or otherwise, belong in the bug-tracker. We have > surprisingly few systemd/pulseaudio bugs open, considering all the > noise they create on the ML. Is it really that hard to respect other people's opinions and wishes? I

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:47:09 +0300 schrieb Thanasis Georgiou : > So you had a problem but when Tom wrote a patch you were unwilling to > help test it? What part of "I had no time to set up a VM." and "I have only one stable system which needs to be stable and reliable." didn't you get? Heiko

Re: [arch-general] What can be deleted, when not using systemd - was: polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:45:34 +0200 schrieb Jelle van der Waa : > Have you ever tried to report your problems with PA and your soundcard > to upstream? How many times does it have to be said, that there are bug reports filed to upstream which have been ignored by upstream resp. which have been clo

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:56:33 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen : > You pointed out a feature that initsrcipts used to have > which systemd-cryptsetup lacked, (on the same day) I posted a patch to > implement the feature you requested, and asked for feedback (which you > didn't give) Just to mention, yo

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:56:33 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen : > This is not the right mailinglist for this issue. And this certainly > is not the right thread for it. This is the right mailing list for this issue, because downstream is also affected by this. And it is also downstream's decision whet

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:57:46 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen : > I prefer the reviews (good or bad) from someone who has actually read > the book. You can usually assume that everybody who writes a review has actually read the book. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:38:15 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums : > I really haven't seen so many and so long discussions and so many > concerns and very negative opinions about a software than I have seen > about Lennart's software. And I'm not only reading this mailing list. &g

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:33:39 -0400 schrieb Brandon Watkins : > Systemd and pulseaudio are completely different pieces of software > with different purposes. Comparing them like that just because of the > author is comparing apples to oranges. Sorry, it is not. I see that PA is totally not complet

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:27:33 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen : > Please guys, not again... > > Take your concerns upstream, nothing will come off rehashing them > here for the hundredths time. Those concerns have been reported upstream a long while ago. They are just ignored resp. upstream doesn't h

Re: [arch-general] note about beginners guide

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:52:09 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf : > Because cd + ls gives an overview about the structure? The output of $ cd /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe $ ls is exactly the same as $ ls /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe There's only one difference. The first one firstly changes the working d

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:48:02 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > > You should be careful with LC_MESSAGES if you use desktop > > environments which don't have their own language setting like Xfce. > > ? I know that you're using KDE, if you haven't switched in the meantime. ;-) So, KDE uses its

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:10:14 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > I don't know why you set it, but I find LC_COLLATE=C extremely > annoying. > > If you want an English speaking system, but live in Switzerland, I > recommend this: > > LANG=fr_CH.UTF-8 > LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 You should be careful

Re: [arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

2012-07-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:13:24 -0400 schrieb Ray Kohler : > You might check if "ls" sorts in this same odd fashion. It might be a > locale setting - if LC_COLLATE is set to your actual locale, it text > will be sorted as if were natural language (i.e., prose), rather than > sorting in the usual "tec

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:05:37 -0400 schrieb "Stephen E. Baker" : > This DAEMONS array is nice, one of the things I like about Arch, but > it is specific to Arch not SysV. If you run Gentoo, or others you > won't have something like that, you'll have a program that arranges > symlinks, not entirely

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:51:15 +0200 (CEST) schrieb okra...@arcor.de: > this is simply not true. Sorry, but this is simply true. I know Windoze XP and I had to use it long enough, far too long. > First of all, starting with Windows XP the stability of Windows (yes, > Windows, not Windoze) got much

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:44:34 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht : > I can find anything in systemd which could make think of the registry > on Windows. I didn't say that. > You are mixing up two things: > - adding/removing services on boot; > - configuring the services. > > The first - adding/remov

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:22:28 +0200 schrieb Nelson Marambio : > that is / was right for Win 98 or Win ME. Having an exception error > which was caused by damaged registry files always meant a reset to > state short after the OS-installation, so all the drivers and > programs had to be re-installed

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:25:52 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen : > Talking about "UNIX philosophy" and "Windoze like ini files" is > probably what gets some people going. It is not technical. In fact it is technical. Of course, at first glance config files for rc scripts and ini files are simple text f

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:31:22 -0500 schrieb Leonid Isaev : > The problem is not with the registry itself, but bad programming. Most > software devs under windows have very little understanding of the > registry. Bad programming is the most favorite answer, and totally nonsense. The registry just g

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:08:26 -0500 schrieb Leonid Isaev : > One thing I noticed is that the only people who usually bash Windows > are those who don't develop or know very little about programming. You really shouldn't do such assumptions. You couldn't have noticed it, you're just assuming. > Wh

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:07:50 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums : > Btw., in all those discussions about systemd as well as in all those > discussions about PulseAudio, I always read more or less > technical arguments from people who have objections against them or > have tried them and ha

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:40:51 +1000 schrieb Gaetan Bisson : > [2012-07-24 09:19:27 -0400] Baho Utot: > > He is stating his opinion and that should be valued > > Baseless opinions are not valuable, they are spam. Actually they are not baseless even if he didn't explain every single argument in

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-23 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:36:05 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht : > Sounds like you (don't take this a personal critism, you're not alone) > have poor administration practices. First, I do have administration practices. > Editing multiple files instead of > one in not a problem at all. In fact, it's

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:43:39 + schrieb Fons Adriaensen : > Fair enough, but for this sort of thing, who is 'upstream' ? In this case the super-ingenious Lennart Poettering, I guess. That said, Gentoo always had separate config files located in /etc/conf.d. So the idea of not having one singl

Re: [arch-general] Grub2 config file needs to be tweaked with last official ISO

2012-07-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:34:12 +0200 schrieb Nelson Marambio : > Am 22.07.2012 13:50, schrieb Damjan: > > > > > ps. > > any special reason that you have a separate /boot partition? > > > > > > /boot is still mentioned in the beginner's guide on > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:06:01 -0400 schrieb Not To Miss : > Dear Arch users, > > I have latest Arch installed on my desktop at work. In recent two > weeks, the system randomly "suspends" at night (I call it "randomly" > because it didn't happen every night. And it seems to happen after a > random

Re: [arch-general] Upgraded kmod, but --ignored linux & glibc, modules still in /lib - can I reboot safely?

2012-07-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:35:58 -0500 schrieb "David C. Rankin" : > Tom, All, > > I see the glibc /lib move is out of testing. I updated with --ignore > linux,glibc and received an install warning from kmod stating: > > ==> Kernel modules are now only read from /usr/lib/modules... > > My modul

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:23:54 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > Your "facts" are opinions and assumptions, mostly about putting words > in the mythical "pulse fanboy's" mouth. Not to mention totally > unhelpful to the discussion. I would say, your nonsense is unhelpful. And my "facts" are facts. Just re

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:08:40 -0700 schrieb David Benfell : > I found it more annoying to uninstall pulseaudio than difficult. And > it's fair to say I was already annoyed, so there has also been a > cathartic element to it. > > Basically, using whatever package manager was appropriate to the > di

Re: [arch-general] *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:00:10 +0200 schrieb Nelson Marambio : > Heiko, by installing GNOME, pulseaudio was installed as dependency I > guess. That's one of the problems I have with PA, indeed. ;-) > So please don't blame for starting with pulse, ok ? I don't blame you, but I blame the people wh

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:05:11 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > That load of drivel below isn't bashing? You refer to fanboys and > proceed to list a whole loss of statements not made by anyone in this > thread. And then you insist that for pulse to be standard it must > conform to your standards, which

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:27:47 -0700 schrieb David Benfell : > I think it *might* be possible to configure PulseAudio to work > correctly. But in my experience, only LinuxMint has gotten this right > out of the box. Unfortunately not. The configuration methods you find in the web, in several forums

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:00:56 +0100 schrieb Mauro Santos : > Have you actually tried using the latest pulseaudio for a couple of > weeks? For supported hardware it sure does something somewhat similar > to what the OP wants. > > It sure seems you have some gripe with pulseaudio and/or pulseaudio's

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:22:45 +0800 schrieb ShichaoGao : > True! > Maybe many people got the bad impression of PA in previous versions. Wrong! Maybe many people got the bad impression of PA, because PA just still doesn't work with their audio cards, and because PA still causes more problems than i

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:06:20 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > Yes, why not repeat that opinion in every thread where pulse is > brought up? Its not like its repetitive. Yes, why not repeat that suggestion installing PulseAudio in every thread where somebody has a simple question about selecting an aud

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:17:45 +0300 schrieb Chris Sakalis : > Hello, > pulseaudio[1] has that functionality. You should check it out. On KDE > , Kmix supports pulseaudio and I am pretty sure it support auto > switching too. PulseAudio is more or less crap. It still doesn't support (semi-)professio

Re: [arch-general] No sound (anymore)

2012-06-13 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:09:09 +0300 schrieb angelinheavysyrup ‎ : > Is there anything I can do about this? Do you get any messages from ALSA during boot? Have you tried to reset your ALSA settings in alsamixer? Sometimes it happens that ALSA changes some channel names or the like, which can be ea

Re: [arch-general] UEFI secure boot

2012-06-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:44:31 +0200 schrieb Alexandre Ferrando : > Arch doesn't seems to have the same kind of user than fedora, Arch if > I don't remember it wrong, tends to be aimed for a competent user. > Such a competent user can disable secure boot in x86 devices. (ARM > devices doesn't seem a

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 21:41:08 +0200 schrieb Jakob Wadsager : > gwdg.de is upstream for some of the mirrors in your mirrorlist, and it > had problems. I've been in contact with an admin earlier this day and > it seems the problems have been resolved. The third in your mirrorlist > (archlinux.limun.o

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 12:26:02 +0200 schrieb Jakob Wadsager : > On 25 May 2012 10:09, Heiko Baums wrote: > > Is there a problem with the mirrors and their synchronization or > > with the package database? > > Our uk2.net mirror has some problems. For this reason we have

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 16:19:54 +0200 schrieb Bjoern Franke : > Do you mean mir.archlinux.fr? Yes. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 14:45:22 +0300 schrieb Axilleas Pi : > I had the same problem. I think the problem is with ftp mirrors. Try > one http and see how it goes. At least, one I tried solved this > problem. I forgot to mention this, I admit, but I only use http mirrors. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 11:02:29 +0200 schrieb Patrick Steinhardt : > I've experienced the same problems. I was able to solve the problem by > forcing database-updates with 'pacman -Syy'. Like I've written in my first e-mail this didn't help me. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 10:36:36 +0200 schrieb Maximilian Bräutigam : > I discovered the same problem for German mirrors. Finally, I got my > kernel 3.3.7 from It's not only the German mirrors, it's at least one French mirror, too. > Server = http://mirrors.kernel.org/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch Serv

[arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Is there a problem with the mirrors and their synchronization or with the package database? Since a while pacman tells me that my package databases for all repos are up-to-date. The latest version of linux in those databases is linux 3.3.6-1 while the latest version in [core] should be 3.3.7-1 acc

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] cpufrequtils in [core]

2012-04-19 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:23:40 +0200 schrieb Seblu : > Currently i removed the last kernel version dot in linux-tools to > avoid user confusion between stable kernel number and linux-tools > version. I manually check if stable release embed fix for cpupower and > perf to avoid user to update when no

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] cpufrequtils in [core]

2012-04-18 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 19 Apr 2012 01:58:09 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen : > I agree it would make sense to make it a split package with the > kernel as the source is shipped with the kernel (afaiu). I missed that Seblu meant this. This would, indeed, make sense. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] cpufrequtils in [core]

2012-04-18 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 19 Apr 2012 01:21:46 +0200 schrieb Seblu : > If you move linux-tools source package into core/extra it make sense > to merge it with linux package. What sense does this make? The package linux is the kernel, the package linux-tools are kernel tools which are not necessary to be able to us

Re: [arch-general] A bug reported, no response in two weeks

2012-03-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:24:43 +0200 schrieb Lukáš Jirkovský : > Oh, I forgot to mention that I've fixed both the mentioned bug and a > related osmo bug a few hours ago. Thanks form me, too. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] A bug reported, no response in two weeks

2012-03-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:23:07 +0200 schrieb Karol Blazewicz : > There's a nasty typo in libgringotts PKGBUILD > http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/libgringotts > : 'pckage()' should be changed to 'package()', otherwise the package > creates no files:

Re: [arch-general] makepkg/PKGBUILD - handle same files provided by 2 non-dependent packages?

2012-03-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 25 Mar 2012 18:02:33 -0400 schrieb Baho Utot : > You stiil had/have a workable solution though But you don't mean this "solution"? pkgbase="splittest" pkgname="splittest" true && pkgname=('splittest' 'splittest-foo') This doesn't really work as already explained once on aur-general and

Re: [arch-general] makepkg/PKGBUILD - handle same files provided by 2 non-dependent packages?

2012-03-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 25 Mar 2012 22:08:43 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums : > AUR still doesn't support split packages, and split packages can't be > handled by the AUR wrappers. So this is really the worst ideas for > AUR, and should only be used for binary repos for now. > > The bett

Re: [arch-general] makepkg/PKGBUILD - handle same files provided by 2 non-dependent packages?

2012-03-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 25 Mar 2012 20:30:52 +0300 schrieb Jesse Juhani Jaara : > su, 2012-03-25 kello 12:24 -0500, David C. Rankin kirjoitti: > > Is there a go-by PKGBUILD that anyone can think of that does just > > that? > > In tdesdk's PKGBUILD do somthing like this > build () { > pach -Np -i patches > sed

Re: [arch-general] apparently bash export is broken for users

2012-03-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:08:57 +0800 schrieb XeCycle : > Not everyone uses bash as the default shell, you can also source > ~/.profile in your bash_profile if you like. But the thread subject says "bash export". Heiko

Re: [arch-general] apparently bash export is broken for users

2012-03-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:18:43 +0800 schrieb XeCycle : > Aren't you supposed to edit ~/.profile by hand? Isn't the correct file to set such environment variables locally ~/.bash_profile resp. ~/.bashrc? For global settings it's /etc/profile or better a new file in /etc/profile.d with the permissio

Re: [arch-general] problem with pulseaudio when resuming from pm-suspend

2012-03-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:35:07 +0200 schrieb Thanasis Georgiou : > No it's not. Sorry, but it is. > The developers decided they want it a part of their > desktop environment and now it's a dependency. And that's the problem and the reason, why those flame wars regularly pop up if PA is mentioned.

Re: [arch-general] problem with pulseaudio when resuming from pm-suspend

2012-03-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:45:50 + schrieb Tom Gundersen : > Disabling PA as Ralf suggests would > in this case not help at all, and likely just make it worse (I wish > people would stop suggesting to disable PA regardless of what the > problem is, in most cases this is not going to make things eas

Re: [arch-general] problem with pulseaudio when resuming from pm-suspend

2012-03-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:51:01 + schrieb John K Pate : > does every single question about pulseaudio really need to be > confronted with a holy war against pulseaudio? As long as it is such a crap, still doesn't work, doesn't support every sound and audio card, causes more problems than it solv

Re: [arch-general] Using + F1 on XFCE

2012-02-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:14:13 +0100 schrieb Vitor Garcia : > Any ideas of how to do that? I can't reproduce this, too. But maybe you could check if you have set a keyboard shortcut to +F1 in Xfce here: Settings -> Keyboard -> Application Shortcuts Settings -> Window Manager -> Keyboard Switchin

Re: [arch-general] An empty /etc/crontab file maybe needed bo be add in to package filesystem.

2012-02-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:25:54 +0800 schrieb 郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) : > Due to cronie doesn't contain an /etc/crontab anymore, there are losts > of msgs of missing crontab as shown below in errors.log. > > > /usr/sbin/crond[1236]: (root) CAN'T OPEN (/etc/crontab): No such > > file or directory Such a

Re: [arch-general] Merge /bin to /usr/bin?

2012-01-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:32:50 +0100 schrieb Tom Gundersen : > I'm not at all a fan of > the way Fedora is going to do the move btw... Maybe the way of going over a committee is the better way after all? ;-) I just say: FHS and the chaos and the imcompatibilities because every distro goes its own w

Re: [arch-general] offtopic ml (WAS eons ago: Re: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:14:01 -0600 schrieb C Anthony Risinger : > not always, and i use a mobile 70%+ of the time. i don't want to > create a new filter for every long-winded thread to nowhere. maybe i > can create a label -> trash, and flag multiple conversations ... maybe > i can't. why shoul

Re: [arch-general] offtopic ml (WAS eons ago: Re: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:17:48 +0100 schrieb Martti Kühne : > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:08:27PM -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > > ... s, how about an `arch-offtopic` list? then at least we'd > > have somewhere to send these tangents, under pain of DEATH (er, > > temp ban perhaps), vs. beggin

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:55:28 + schrieb Fons Adriaensen : > Could be. My impression is based on talking with LP face to face. > And yours ? My is based on a bug report, upstream's solution for closing this bug report - this weird ALSA configuration which cripples those cards to pure stereo car

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:03:13 -0400 schrieb Norbert Zeh : > Let me chime in here to add an important point to this discussion. > The whole discussion so far sounds as if PA works great with non-pro > cards and breaks only on pro cards. That's not the case: PA has > problems even with what is proba

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:35:07 +0100 schrieb Jelle van der Waa : > Indeed, this should be the thing the complainers _should_ be doing. > Archlinux ships vanilla upstream, so you're really barking at the > wrong tree here. Please consider asking either PA for help or ditch > it. I don't think this

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:42:33 + schrieb Fons Adriaensen : > They *DO* know and understand the difference between consumer and > 'pro' audio. I have another impression. > I wonder what your problem is. There is no audio production software > I know of that uses or depends on PA. It's going to

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:58:31 +0100 schrieb Tom Gundersen : > Sounds like possibly valid concerns. But this is not something to > discuss here. Please contact gnome and/or pulseaudio if you have > issues. This has already been tried at least with pulseaudio. Their reactions are known. Blame ALSA f

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 12:37:14 -0600 schrieb C Anthony Risinger : > is this roughly message you want to send? No, this is not the message, and I guess you totally misunderstood me. The problem is that PulseAudio is not working with every sound and audio card, but users are forced to install it as

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:14:47 -0600 schrieb Leonid Isaev : > PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. That may be exactly what you need, but not what we need. Otherwise we all could stick with Windows. You can read your e-mails and write some letters with Windows. So why usin

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