Re: [arch-general] RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-25 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: Greetings, in the last months there have been many discussions about init systems, especially systemd. The current state seems to make no one really happy - the current Arch Linux init system is a bit minimal and gets

Re: [arch-general] RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-25 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Rashif Ray Rahman sc...@archlinux.orgwrote: On 25 April 2012 23:25, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: I strongly believe that should we move away from intscripts it needs to be to an event-driven system (such as systemd or upstart) and it was not clear

Re: [arch-general] how many virtual machines

2012-04-03 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Nicholas MIller nick.k...@gmail.com wrote: hello I currently host my personal webpage from a virtual machine at my house. I am looking to add a mailserver as well as an irc server. however I don't know if I should be using a separate vmachine for each

Re: [arch-general] how many virtual machines

2012-04-03 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Nicholas MIller nick.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 3, 2012 3:59 PM, Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Nicholas MIller nick.k...@gmail.com wrote: hello I currently host my personal webpage from a virtual machine

Re: [arch-general] htaccess password

2012-03-29 Thread Kaiting Chen
You probably want to look into mod_auth_ldap or something by that point. Do you want to generate them randomly? --Kaiting. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:11 PM, pete p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi .. I need to generate a htaccess file that has 150 username password pairs does anyone know

Re: [arch-general] Note on Trinity R14 (3.5.14)

2012-03-24 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 1:07 AM, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Guys, There will be an upcoming release of TDE 3.5.14 in the next few months and I have worked to update the build system for Arch. All packages below are building on current libraries. The only AUR

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cleaning up orphaned packages

2012-03-20 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.dewrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:40:25PM +0100, Lukas Fleischer wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 01:01:03AM +0100, Pierre Schmitz wrote: Am 24.02.2012 17:06, schrieb Lukas Fleischer: Apart from that, +1 to this

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cleaning up orphaned packages

2012-03-20 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:40:25PM +0100, Lukas Fleischer wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 01:01:03AM +0100, Pierre Schmitz wrote: Am

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cleaning up orphaned packages

2012-03-20 Thread Kaiting Chen
2012/3/21 Bartłomiej Piotrowski b...@bpiotrowski.pl On 03/20/2012 10:28 PM, Kaiting Chen wrote: Oh never mind that's taken, I could take bzr, proftpd, openbabel, and vim. Out of these avogadro which is in [extra] depends on openbabel. Surprisingly the only non-vim package that depends

Re: [arch-general] pacman: -Rd remove with no dependency check changed?

2011-05-01 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Marek Otahal markota...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 01 of May 2011 00:36:40 Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: Marek Otahal wrote: Oh, thank you very much Jesse! I already started writing a patch to mention the -dd then I read the text carefully.. Don't bother,

Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?

2011-05-01 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 3:30 AM, David Campbell davek...@archlinux.uswrote: Excerpts from Ray Kohler's message of 2011-04-30 22:13:24 -0400: The donations were done via PayPal and those in charge decided PayPal wasn't trustworthy for use by non-profit organizations who don't have official

Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?

2011-05-01 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 01/05/11 15:35, Johannes Held wrote: On 01.05.2011 04:13, Ray Kohler wrote: I also have donated in the past, and would do so again if it were made possible. What about a normal bank transfer to one of Arch's core

Re: [arch-general] Myths and reality about cronie

2011-04-22 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.bewrote: you know what would be reeaally cool? A cron daemon that can read user crontabs from $HOME/.config/crontab or something. I think all user-specific stuff should be in $HOME, although it would probably require a posix

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-21 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:32 AM, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On 04/06/2011 10:34 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: Upstream stability makes sense. If redhat is behind cronie, then that seems like the logical choice. Why is this logical? Is it the developer what makes a

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-21 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Apr 21, 2011, at 17:30, Grigorios Bouzakis grb...@xsmail.com wrote: Ionut Biru wrote: On 04/22/2011 12:11 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: Ionut Biru wrote: On 04/21/2011 02:18 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:48:04 +0200 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haases...@lutzhaase.com: I

[arch-general] Myths and reality about cronie

2011-04-21 Thread Kaiting Chen
I've compiled a short document describing exactly what cronie is and is not; and if it were to be the default what would and would not happen to base, [core], and the rest of Arch. It is my hope that this will clear up some of the misunderstanding surrounding the current discussion on

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

2011-04-08 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Jelle van der Waa je...@vdwaa.nl wrote: And on a side note, I don't like archlinux forcing users to use SELinux because users should have a choice to use any MAC software they want. That's why AppArmor /Tomoyo are nicer solutions cause they don't require

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-08 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.bewrote: On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different way without any further discussions. There's a need for installing one cron daemon, but no need for a default cron daemon. It's pretty the same issue as

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-08 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.bewrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:45:29 -0400 Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.bewrote: On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

2011-04-08 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: In my opinion, SELinux would be better supported in a user provided repo. Work with the guy (whose name I can not remember...) who has done an awesome job getting this all done and into the AUR. Okay I don't know a thing

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-07 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Why do you need vixie cron syntax? Can't you migrate once to a new syntax? Btw., most of fcron's syntax is the same as the syntax of every cron daemon. You can easily take your previous crontabs. You probably have only

Re: [arch-general] Where should system-wide vim files go?

2011-04-06 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org wrote: Because the vast majority of vim extensions I've come across are turned on as soon as they are installed, which means that installing them centrally turns them on for *all* users on the system. You could do set

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-06 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: cronie has anacron features and I think is a good option. Unfortunately cronie isn't even in [community] yet. I've been trying to get it there for a while. Also, in what way is another crond + anacron inferior to fcron?

Re: [arch-general] Any place I can host the Trinity binary packages for testing?

2011-02-16 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:07 PM, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Is there a place I can upload and host the finished Trinity packages for testing? I have less than 500K upstream capability at home, so that makes hosting the binaries impossible for me. I have both i686

Re: [arch-general] Viewing changelogs for packages

2011-02-15 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Divan Santana di...@s-tainment.co.zawrote: I'd like to view the change logs of new packages when new updates are available. I see pacman -Qc would display a changelog of a package installed. It seems that 95% of the packages(on my system anyway) don't have a

Re: [arch-general] util-linux 2.19 release

2011-02-13 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com wrote: Other thoughts: If we build this with --enable-libmount-mount, we can do away with /etc/mtab and make it a symlink to /proc/self/mounts. It is, however, marked as experimental in the release notes. Hi, how does the

Re: [arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-07 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.bewrote: So I would like a web application that gives me a pretty good idea of the quality of current/recent images. I request someone other then me to make this app for me, I do not have the time. (I do have time for feedback

Re: [arch-general] Question about automated builder

2011-01-27 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: We have been discussing this in the TU chat, and there is a lot of excitement about it, I am going to post some degign docs on the wiki here in a few days (give me some time to put it together :) ) and then we can have

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Upstart

2011-01-19 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Madhur Ahuja ahuja.mad...@gmail.comwrote: Any ideas when will Arch switch to upstart based booting system ? Oh God please never. It would be nice to have it as an option for users who are interested (I'm totally for an officially supported option) but there's

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Upstart

2011-01-19 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Jelle van der Waa je...@vdwaa.nl wrote: Package upstart, create a forum thread, gather some evidence that it could be implemented easy in the archlinux and then take it too the devs. (If they would still be interested after all this 16 year old behaviour :P )

Re: [arch-general] how to perform selected gnome installation with pacman?

2011-01-19 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Juan R. de Silva juan.r.d.si...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to install GNOME for my freshly installed base system following instructions provided on this page 'https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ GNOME#Base https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/%0AGNOME#Base'.

[arch-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all

2011-01-18 Thread Kaiting Chen
Okay everyone, every time I ask I get a different answer. According to Dziedzic and Allan 'glibc' does *not* belong in 'depends'. Also Dziedzic votes that *no* package in 'base' should be in 'depends'. Can we settle once and for all what the correct policy is? And then can we update the wiki page

Re: [arch-general] We want to help

2010-12-14 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:14 PM, C Anthony Risinger anth...@extof.mewrote: the benefit to the pyjs approach is 100% client side operation, so it can run without online access. additionally, the python-DOM version (or the pyjs version if proxying thru a local daemon) could potentially direct

Re: [arch-general] why I'd rather use Python over Javascript for web development

2010-12-14 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:44 PM, C Anthony Risinger anth...@extof.mewrote: ) JS is completely unstructured. powerful, but causes developers to implement many things that would be a part of the core syntax in other langs ) the causes many different impls of the same, and new devs to

Re: [arch-general] why I'd rather use Python over Javascript for web development

2010-12-14 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.comwrote: You reminded me of a comment on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/cf8cv/extjs_to_add_more_confusion_to_developers_changes/c0s6tah Funny comment, but whoever wrote it is an idiot and needs to RTFM.

Re: [arch-general] Testing kills shm and pts

2010-12-12 Thread Kaiting Chen
Um what? You're going to need to be a little more specific. --Kaiting. -- Kiwis and Limes: http://kaitocracy.blogspot.com/

Re: [arch-general] Patent protection

2010-12-08 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Armando M. Baratti ambaratti.lis...@gmail.com wrote: What you may not know is that, as Novell was part of OIN (Open Invention Network), those that join OIN *before* the closing date for the acquisition (about january 23) will be protected from any harassment

Re: [arch-general] Patent protection

2010-12-08 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Sven-Hendrik Haase s...@lutzhaase.com wrote: I could be totally wrong here, but as far as I know Arch Linux doesn't actually exist as a legal entity. I haven't had time to read the linked articles, but if this is the case would it even be possible for us to

[arch-general] MIT Kerberos?

2010-11-19 Thread Kaiting Chen
Does anyone know if MIT kerberos is a drop-in replacement for Heimdal? It seems more actively developed and more featureful than Heimdal these days. I'm pretty sure cryptographic export as munitions is no longer an issue for the US. Perhaps it would even make sense to try to transition to MIT?

Re: [arch-general] MIT Kerberos?

2010-11-19 Thread Kaiting Chen
Does the current samba (3.x) even build with MIT kerberos? I am fairly definite that samba4 does not... I believe Samba 3 does but Samba 4 does not. Apparently Samba 4 includes OpenLDAP and Heimdal internally. Which is kind of stupid when you consider that people are running FedoraDS,

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-10-25 Thread Kaiting Chen
You know what you could do is something like rm /usr/bin/python echo /usr/bin/python HERE #! /bin/bash [ -z $_PYTHON ] _PYTHON=/usr/bin/python2 $_PYTHON $@ HERE chmod 755 /usr/bin/python if the transition is bothering you too much. Then when things calm down a little you just delete that

[arch-general] Policy concerning /usr/libexec

2010-05-20 Thread Kaiting Chen
Hi I was wondering why the policy was to not use /usr/libexec and move what should go there to /usr/lib/pkgname. While it isn't serious it seems to me that this deviation from the default behavior is unnecessary. One scenario I can think of where this might cause a problem is if a very security

Re: [arch-general] starting network:fail[eth0 wasn't connected] How to enable without reboot?

2010-05-18 Thread Kaiting Chen
Um should he just /etc/rc.d/network restart? That performs everything that happens when the network interface is brought up on system start. Kaiting. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:57 PM, wol...@fsfe.org wrote: On 2010-05-18 20:45, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: Currently my pc is a laptop. I

Re: [arch-general] starting network:fail[eth0 wasn't connected] How to enable without reboot?

2010-05-18 Thread Kaiting Chen
I see I've never heard of ifplugd but it looks like the best solution. What I was referring to was that /etc/rc.d/network restart is preferable to ifconfig in that it will start up dhcpcd for you. Kaiting. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:32 PM, wol...@fsfe.org wrote: Hi Um should he just

Re: [arch-general] PKGBUILD parser

2010-05-10 Thread Kaiting Chen
Interesting I didn't realize that. But then it's not really a 'regular' expression then. They should call it a 'limited-context-free' expression... Kaiting. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:21 PM, C Anthony Risinger anth...@extof.mewrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Pierre Chapuis

Re: [arch-general] PKGBUILD parser

2010-05-09 Thread Kaiting Chen
Just to let you know dude, you can't parse that with a regular expression. A regular expression is modeled / parsed by a finite automaton = a state machine with a finite number of states. Braces allow nesting which creates a source with potentially an infinite number of states consider, a() {

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-08 Thread Kaiting Chen
Hey just want to jump in here and say that I don't think it's a problem in communication. We like Linux and especially Arch because it lets us do what we want, and with power comes responsibility. That responsibility means that one should do a kernel of research before asking for help. In this

[arch-general] Free Arch Linux Shell Account

2010-04-30 Thread Kaiting Chen
Hi, I posted this in the forums a couple weeks ago, just thought that I would copy it here in case anyone was still interested. Hi, I've a couple of Linode's with spare resources so I thought that I would offer some free shell accounts. There are three servers in total each running Arch Linux