Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll

2012-08-24 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/25 Felipe Contreras : > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Stephen E. Baker > wrote: >> On 23/08/2012 4:14 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> [snip] >> >>> Is systemd ready? Where is the evidence? >> >> >> https://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageStatistics shows that about 14% of >> arch users who

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd

2012-08-21 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/22 Felipe Contreras : > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:08 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > >> no flexibility is lost by moving to systemd, and really, much more >> gained: wider userbase, wider testbase, simple units to write, simple >> units to read, loosely coupled ordering, implicit dependenc

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd

2012-08-17 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/18 Kyle : > I made the move to systemd on my flash drive install 2 days ago, and I have > to say I am impressed. The only extra thing I needed to do was to write a > unit file for espeakup, since there isn't yet a unit in the package or in > systemd-arch-units. Writing the new .service file

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

2012-08-17 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/17 Kevin Chadwick : >> Of course, you are free to adopt as late as possible, > > We are free to adopt never just with a lower chance of any support. It > may be difficult to keep a thousand packages in check, it should not be > difficult to keep the few each person uses in check and there wi

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd

2012-08-17 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/17 mike cloaked : > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: >> There has been much ado on the arch-general mailing list about the move to >> systemd. I participated in part of it, but like others finally tired of >> "seeing a dead horse kicked" over and over and over. So much s

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd

2012-08-17 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/17 Geoff : > On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:22:56 -0500 > Myra Nelson wrote: > > > > I agree. I have read all the current threads and the few words which struck > me > with greatest force were in a post from Marti Raudsepp, where he said that an > advantage of systemd is "... less fragmentation

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

2012-08-15 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/16 Fons Adriaensen : > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 04:12:58AM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > >> On 16 August 2012 03:46, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > >> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:25:05AM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > >> >> It is a new 'upstream' that we can rely on for running our GNU/Lin

Re: [arch-general] Think twice before moving to systemd

2012-08-15 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/15 Felipe Contreras : > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Felipe Contreras >> wrote: >>> I don't have that machine available at the moment, but I don't see how >>> such an issue could have been fixed given the lack of interest from >>

Re: [arch-general] Think twice before moving to systemd

2012-08-14 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/15 Felipe Contreras : > Hi, > > Finally, it's much harder to debug. If you have a problem you will not > be able to open a script and figure out what is happening, and perhaps > modify it, and debug it. You would be greeted with an unmodified > binary, and the source code would be along thes

Re: [arch-general] OT: "Major distributions"

2012-08-14 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/15 Timothy Rice : >> As a rolling release, Arch is usually the leader of adopt new technology. >> But now, Arch is falling behind Debian now. So sad. > > Arch Linux is also about simplicity. For me, this is more important > than the rolling-releaseness and bleeding-edgeness. If Arch lags beh

Re: [arch-general] OT: "Major distributions" (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-14 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/15 Thomas Bächler : > Am 14.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Brandon Watkins: >> Systemd isn't going anywhere anytime soon, its going to be adopted by RHEL >> (which means it would also be adopted by RHEL derivatives like CentOS), and >> its being adopted by major distros like fedora, opensuse, mageia

Re: [arch-general] KDE and plasma-desktop CPU usage

2012-08-11 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/12 Shridhar Daithankar : > On Saturday 11 Aug 2012 5:59:58 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 19:40 +0530, Shridhar Daithankar wrote: >> > Google is not much of help. Any suggestions before I report the bug >> > upstream? >> "pacman -Rdd phonon-gstreamer >> pacman -S phonon-vlc"

Re: [arch-general] RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-25 Thread Leon Feng
me. People who propose OpenRC should do the same or even better then systemd and win more users. Recently systemd is gradually getting momentum. So hurry up. Competition is always a good thing. Leon Feng

Re: [arch-general] shutdown problems

2012-02-16 Thread Leon Feng
在 2012年2月16日 下午9:19,Bjørn Øivind Bjørnsen 写道: > On 16/02/12 14:11, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: >> I am experiencing this same issue on my 2 KDE systems too. Both using systemd >> too. > > Likewise, but since shutdown works from KDM, this has not bothered me > enough to debug it quite yet. > Maybe th

Re: [arch-general] Plasma-desktop in KDE 4.7 can not start up [Solved]

2011-08-05 Thread Leon Feng
2011/8/3 Paul Gideon Dann > On Wednesday 03 Aug 2011 22:25:37 Leon Feng wrote: > > 2011/8/3 Paul Gideon Dann > > > > > Are you getting a crash report from KDE? Also, have you checked for > > > relevant > > > information in the xorg-server log? > &g

Re: [arch-general] Plasma-desktop in KDE 4.7 can not start up

2011-08-03 Thread Leon Feng
2011/8/3 Paul Gideon Dann > > Are you getting a crash report from KDE? Also, have you checked for > relevant > information in the xorg-server log? > No everything is ok in xorg-server. After kill plasma-desktop, I can login kde. Start krunner ,Firefox and other application can star up. Alt + Ta

Re: [arch-general] Plasma-desktop in KDE 4.7 can not start up

2011-08-03 Thread Leon Feng
2011/8/3 Stefano Avallone > On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 06:34:53 PM Leon Feng wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After upgrade to KDE 4.7, plasma-desktop can not start anymore. Login in > > from kdm will stop at the splash screen. > > Switch to console by ctrl + alt + F1

[arch-general] Plasma-desktop in KDE 4.7 can not start up

2011-08-03 Thread Leon Feng
Hi, After upgrade to KDE 4.7, plasma-desktop can not start anymore. Login in from kdm will stop at the splash screen. Switch to console by ctrl + alt + F1 and then run "top" plasma-desktop is using 100% CPU. Run "pkill plasma-desktop" , Login continue. But screen is black. I check .xsession-error