[arch-general] Re: Mailing list closed for 24 hours

2012-09-28 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 27/09/12, Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: The 27/09/12, Tobias Frilling wrote: The problem is not at the general mailing list but at the dev mailing list side. archlinux-dev is for contributors and as long somebody

[arch-general] Re: Mailing list closed for 24 hours

2012-09-28 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
. Highly contructive and motivating. Thanks. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Mailing list closed for 24 hours

2012-09-28 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
! ,-) -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Mailing list closed for 24 hours

2012-09-28 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
in case things don't go to the expected way. So, this is a +1 from me. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Mailing list closed for 24 hours

2012-09-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
request to the general list) with the *hope* that a maintainer/developer catch the reply in the other public mailing list. And no, I don't find requesting in private is a solution, either. The problem is not at the general mailing list but at the dev mailing list side. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: How to align partitions?

2012-09-04 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
of (1024*1024=1048576). I use LMV or RAID+LVM on top of that. LVM needs dedicated configuration, too. AFAIK, some RAID can't be aligned at all due to metadata. A good article is from Theodore Ts'o: http://tytso.livejournal.com/2009/02/20/ -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package

2012-08-28 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
://github.com/akhilvij/systemd-to-sysvinit-converter Might be worth giving it a try and contribute to get easier support of sysvinit in the long term. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package

2012-08-28 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
lines. ,-) Hopefully the Debian guys have found a clever solution for this, I'd be interested to see it :) I guess you meant if the Debian guys have found. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package

2012-08-28 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
. If they do, users who want such tool will use systemd and such daemons would naturally be out of the scope. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: systemd native files in etc

2012-08-24 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
not be good to provide those. What upgrade are you talking about? OP is talking about configuration files not willing to be upgraded for years (if not for their whole life time). I tend to think it's a mistake. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: systemd native files in etc

2012-08-24 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
generate a .pacnew Which remains to my previous point: what kind of reason could require an update for such files ? As a side note upstream is arch maintainers, here. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: systemd native files in etc

2012-08-24 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
and at the same location forever. Ok, I understand you. This leads to my next point: I do expect pacman to notify me with .pacnew files if a package like systemd require changes in configuration files. It would not be annoyance but expected behaviour. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: New install media 2012.08.04 uses ZSH, if I may ask, why?

2012-08-07 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
for years as default interactive shell without any issue. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: upower.service stop working

2012-08-03 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
of battery of my phone, which was working until the recent update of libimobiledevice. I have no idea about it right now. Anyway, thank you very much for your reply. This is worth a but report at upstream, I guess. ,-) -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Mutt client-Message from Gateway

2012-08-02 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 01/08/12, Arno Gaboury wrote: Any idea what could be wrong in my configuration? Or maybe just an invalid adress in the list? If this is not reproducible, you can bet for the latter. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Mutt client-Message from Gateway

2012-08-02 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 02/08/12, Arno Gaboury wrote: I can confirm it only happens with this list. Other lists or private mail don't return me such mail. Show us your configuration files, then. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Mutt client-Message from Gateway

2012-08-02 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
+ vim). I couldn't find any strong breackage in the configuration files but I'm lost with your configuration: - is it intended that you configure mutt to both connect as IMAP and a local Maildir synced with offlineimap? - why use msmtp if you configure mutt SMTP? -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Systemd : Analysis of reactions of Users

2012-07-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
are other examples. It's very hard to fix all the issues of init scripts. Some issues even appeared to be nearly impossible to solve. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Systemd_problems http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/self-documented-boot.html -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Systemd : Analysis of reactions of Users

2012-07-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 27/07/12, Mike wrote: I'm aware of that, but that doesn't mean one can't fix them. Nobody said, that the code base of sysvinit shouldn't be modified. It would have been fixed for a long time if it were easy enough. :-) -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
in them made systems ran into problems, here. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
problem from the software or anything about the user feelings. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
). Hackers know C. Admins don't hack and write scripts, too often poorly; whatever my statement will hurt readers or not. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Systemd : Analysis of reactions of Users

2012-07-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
you any chance to catch all the failures. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-25 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
funny how you think init scripts ― without consistant/sensible design over them, not deployed as widely as systemd and touched by so many people ― are likely to have as many bugs as systemd. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-25 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
(PulseAudio and systemd). OTOH for the systemd case, we are changing of paradigm for the boot process. I'm not aware of such a change in the boot process for years. All recent event-based init systems have raise fear. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-24 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
? -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-23 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
that you think is good in Archlinux is not beeing broken at all. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-23 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 23/07/12, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:36:05 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr: Who is manually editing each configuration one after the other need lessons on administration tasks. I don't think so. Who manually edits config files just don't trust all

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-23 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
or improvements. The simplest way I know consist in installing a 70th year old system and don't update it. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: merging files from pacnew

2012-06-25 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
by forking it or by submitting patches upstream. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] FCoE support in archlinux

2012-06-21 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
Hi, I plan to use FCoE on archlinux servers but I couldn't find any package of the utils to get it working. The modules looks compiled in the kernel. Does Arch support FCoE? If so, which utils do you use (I'm aware of the http://www.open-fcoe.org/ utils only)? Thanks, -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Re: [RFC] another base cleanup

2012-06-07 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
this? This would be sensible for some real use cases (e.g. building LXC systems, thin stations, PXE minimal systems mounting / or /usr from a remote, etc). -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: [Bulk] Re:RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-05-09 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
and maintaining init a nightmare. Writing good shell code is MUCH harder than it looks at a first glance, including for educated people. (1) http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/openrc.git;a=blob_plain;f=init.d/sysfs.in;hb=HEAD -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: [Bulk] Re:RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-30 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
. Having most of the distribution maintainers playing in with boot critical shell scripts is worse. I've been faced with so many poorly written shell scripts over distributions for decades that I can't believe in your C is more crashy statement. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
but this is clearly possible for OpenRC to become a Gentoo init system _alternative_. This is why I think that switching to OpenRC *now* would be wrong. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
see why it would not work well here. So, OpenRC could be proposed as an alternative init system in AUR. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Email via mutt+offlineimap+msmtp

2012-01-09 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
in screen. Today, I use 3 unrelated mail accounts but I had 5 accounts handled this way some time ago. It's the easiest and most scalable configuration I've found. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: pacman -Syu fails due to conflict with mtab?

2011-12-23 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
.xml for more information about UTF-8. With 'eselect news read' you only get fresh news you didn't read yet. This feature was a big success, very appreciated by users. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
for human choices. What your bot would have done with the hi I wrote on the top of my answer? What solution will you spread when some people will be tied to hear words like suck, fuck and so? -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-19 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
. Not a solution. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
of on topic... I ignore his mails, too. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: USB Buffering Issue

2011-12-02 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
is basically for devices discovery and naming them in /dev. By the way, I'm mounting the drive via udisks (from KDE). So noone else is seeing this? Before trying any sync mount option, try to manually sync disks with the sync command to check if it fixes you issue. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: USB Buffering Issue

2011-12-02 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 02/12/11, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: On Friday 02 Dec 2011 12:03:52 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: Before trying any sync mount option, try to manually sync disks with the sync command to check if it fixes you issue. Didn't remember you already told it works with sync in your first mail, sorry

[arch-general] Re: USB Buffering Issue

2011-12-02 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 02/12/11, Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Paul Gideon Dann pdgid...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 02 Dec 2011 14:37:59 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: How do you umount the USB device? I've done it both from KDE and the command line, but I don't think that really

[arch-general] Re: USB Buffering Issue

2011-12-02 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
like unmount is complete when in fact it isn't. Agreed. Should be reported upstream. :-) -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: libgdbm.so.4 breakage?

2011-11-30 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
the devs or someone that knows better will advise on the best way to deal with it. Indeed, -Syy is the right way to deal with this. Why is it better in /this/ use case? -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: 2011.11-1 archboot 2k11-R7 ISO hybrid image released

2011-11-28 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
at finding the partition LABEL after udev started. Thanks, -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: pacman new generation

2011-11-23 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
that writing good Haskell code poses its own set of challenges Agreed. I don't think Haskell is the best language for the purpose. Go language may fit much better. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: pacman new generation

2011-11-22 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
: many of high-level languages have very good advantages over shell scripting. I do think pacman could be much better if rewritten in one of these languages. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: pacman new generation

2011-11-22 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 22/11/11, Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: OP raised one or two benefits of Haskell over shell scripting. He is right even if it's somewhat partial: many of high-level languages have very good advantages over shell

[arch-general] Re: pacman new generation

2011-11-22 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
, come on. You're kidding me, right? Did anyone talked about spreading in the wild the current team? -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: pacman new generation

2011-11-22 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 22/11/11, Magnus Therning wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 13:02, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: But it's missing advanced features. OP raised rollbacks, I'd rather talk about simultaneous/concurrency pacman calls and mutli-threading to handle packages installation where

[arch-general] Re: pacman new generation

2011-11-22 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
language should not be chosen based on popularity. C is used in most unix-like software because of its quality and not as a consequence of the available developer pool for it. I tend to agree. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: pacman new generation

2011-11-22 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
barrier that makes it harder for new people to become acquainted with the codebase. Here is a very good resume of this aspect of the discussion and we fully agree, here. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: pacman new generation

2011-11-22 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
languages. Also, I don't want to flame and rather keep the discussion out of free attacks against the current team of developers. I took part of this thread only because I've already been faced to pacman limitations in its current form. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[arch-general] Re: Gnome Shell freezes

2011-11-14 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 12/11/11, Max wrote: ..and in .xsession-errors: (gnome-shell:1182): St-CRITICAL **: _st_paint_shadow_with_opacity: assertion `shadow_spec != NULL' failed Looks like a bug in gnome-shell. I think it should be reported upstream. -- Nicolas Sebrecht