On 05/17, Bardur Arantsson wrote:
> On 2014-05-17 22:08, Bardur Arantsson wrote:
>
> Hm. Rethinking this I was going to say something about listing (and
> screening) all the files that a package *would* install, but it seems
> that it's not possible to list files installed by a package before
> ins
May I remind everyone that makepkg is a bash script.
Some might argue it's bloated and too long, while others might counter
that the discussion is going on way too long already and forking a
bash script for personal use would generally be an option.
I'd be glad if the devs kept things "generally"
On 05/18, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Bigby James
> wrote:
> > On 05/17, Dimitris Zervas wrote:
> >> On May 17, 2014 5:22:32 PM EEST, Roland Tapken wrote:
> >>
> >> BTW: Another good idea that would be helpful is add comments on installed
> >> packages on pacman. e.g. w
On 2014-05-17 15:49, Bardur Arantsson wrote:
On 2014-05-17 22:08, Bardur Arantsson wrote:
On 2014-05-17 21:50, Roland Tapken wrote:
Hi Bardur,
Even if your assumption about pacman is correct: Just let the
malicious
PKGBUILD write a file into /etc/cron.d/, /etc/systemd or something
like that
在 2014-5-18,4:49,Bardur Arantsson 写道:
> Hm. Rethinking this I was going to say something about listing (and
> screening) all the files that a package *would* install, but it seems
> that it's not possible to list files installed by a package before
> installing it...?
>
> (pacman -Ql only accept
On 17/05/14 03:12 PM, Bardur Arantsson wrote:
> On 2014-05-17 14:40, Roland Tapken wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm using arch for about half a year on a few systems, but every time I
>> install something from aur I'm asking myself one question:
>>
>> Why is it considered dangerous to run makepkg as root?
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Roland Tapken wrote:
> My first guess was that the PKGBUILD usually comes from an untrusted source
> and
> may contain code to attack my system (copy personal data or install a rootkit
> or something like that).
I think that the point isn't that you're not suppos
On 2014-05-17 22:55, ushi wrote:
> Am 17.05.2014 22:08, schrieb Bardur Arantsson:
>> On 2014-05-17 21:50, Roland Tapken wrote:
>>> Hi Bardur,
>>>
Maybe I've missed something reading through this thread, but *assuming*
(yeah, I know) that packages can't run arbitrary scripts at install tim
Am 17.05.2014 22:08, schrieb Bardur Arantsson:
> On 2014-05-17 21:50, Roland Tapken wrote:
>> Hi Bardur,
>>
>>> Maybe I've missed something reading through this thread, but *assuming*
>>> (yeah, I know) that packages can't run arbitrary scripts at install time
>>> (which I think is a valid assumpti
On 2014-05-17 22:08, Bardur Arantsson wrote:
> On 2014-05-17 21:50, Roland Tapken wrote:
>> Hi Bardur,
>>
>> Even if your assumption about pacman is correct: Just let the malicious
>> PKGBUILD write a file into /etc/cron.d/, /etc/systemd or something like that
>> and you're doomed. No need for pr
On 2014-05-17 21:50, Roland Tapken wrote:
> Hi Bardur,
>
>> Maybe I've missed something reading through this thread, but *assuming*
>> (yeah, I know) that packages can't run arbitrary scripts at install time
>> (which I think is a valid assumption for pacman),
>
> Is this so? I don't know since I
Hi Bardur,
> Maybe I've missed something reading through this thread, but *assuming*
> (yeah, I know) that packages can't run arbitrary scripts at install time
> (which I think is a valid assumption for pacman),
Is this so? I don't know since I've only scratched the surface of arch until
now. Bu
On 2014-05-17 14:40, Roland Tapken wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using arch for about half a year on a few systems, but every time I
> install something from aur I'm asking myself one question:
>
> Why is it considered dangerous to run makepkg as root?
>
> My first guess was that the PKGBUILD usually co
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Bigby James wrote:
> On 05/17, Dimitris Zervas wrote:
>> On May 17, 2014 5:22:32 PM EEST, Roland Tapken wrote:
>>
>> BTW: Another good idea that would be helpful is add comments on installed
>> packages on pacman. e.g. why did you install them. But that's anothe
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 03:49:49PM +0300, Dimitris Zervas wrote:
>
>
> >The second idea is that this advice should prevent the script from
> >*accidentally* damage my system. But this could be prevented by using
> >fakeroot
> >(which is disabled when calling makepkg with --asroot according to
On 05/17, Dimitris Zervas wrote:
> On May 17, 2014 5:22:32 PM EEST, Roland Tapken wrote:
>
> BTW: Another good idea that would be helpful is add comments on installed
> packages on pacman. e.g. why did you install them. But that's another thread
>
No offense, but if you need to ask yourself why
Hi,
> I would really like to help patching, but my time is extremely limited
> (finals in 2 weeks).
>
> Good luck! :)
I'll think I'll have a try, also my time is very limited, too :-)
Regards,
Roland
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On May 17, 2014 5:22:32 PM EEST, Roland Tapken wrote:
>Hi,
>
>> A good idea is to automatically change to a much more restricted
>user, used
>> just for building (no shells, logins, etc.).
>
>What do you think about patching yaourt to that it, if executed as
>root, runs
>makepkg as a special use
Hi,
> A good idea is to automatically change to a much more restricted user, used
> just for building (no shells, logins, etc.).
What do you think about patching yaourt to that it, if executed as root, runs
makepkg as a special user? Or changing makepkg to drop it's own privileges if
executed
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Roland Tapken wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using arch for about half a year on a few systems, but every time I
> install something from aur I'm asking myself one question:
>
> Why is it considered dangerous to run makepkg as root?
>
> My first guess was that the PKGBUILD u
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Am 17.05.2014 14:40, schrieb Roland Tapken:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using arch for about half a year on a few systems, but every
> time I install something from aur I'm asking myself one question:
>
> Why is it considered dangerous to run makepkg as root?
>
>
>The second idea is that this advice should prevent the script from
>*accidentally* damage my system. But this could be prevented by using
>fakeroot
>(which is disabled when calling makepkg with --asroot according to the
>
>manpage) or chroot. And actually the proper advice in this case should
Hi,
I'm using arch for about half a year on a few systems, but every time I
install something from aur I'm asking myself one question:
Why is it considered dangerous to run makepkg as root?
My first guess was that the PKGBUILD usually comes from an untrusted source and
may contain code to atta
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