Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-11 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi Rémy, On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Rémy Oudompheng wrote: > I will need testers for the various patches I merged from the bug > tracker, notably IPv6. Any comments on the suggested implementation > are welcome. Great to hear that you are working on this! My two cents: I noticed you made

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-11 Thread Rémy Oudompheng
On 2011/6/10 James Rayner wrote: > netcfg has an option that runs ip/iproute with any custom option > (routes, IPs anything), the option is "IPCFG". It may be seen in the > example ethernet-iproute[1]. > > IFCFG is the obscure command you mention, unfortunately it's not too > obscure, as this was

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-10 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Bogdan Ionuț wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 17:58, Tom Gundersen wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Bogdan Ionuț wrote: >> > same for rp-pppoe users. >> >> Please file a bug about the missing dependency. >> >> -t >> > > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-10 Thread Bogdan Ionuț
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 17:58, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Bogdan Ionuț wrote: > > same for rp-pppoe users. > > Please file a bug about the missing dependency. > > -t > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24639

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-10 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Ignacio Galmarino wrote: > wicd stop working if you uninstall net-tools. Just a warning to wicd users :) Please file a bug about the missing dependency. -t

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-10 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Bogdan Ionuț wrote: > same for rp-pppoe users. Please file a bug about the missing dependency. -t

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-10 Thread James Rayner
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:05 +0200, "Tom Gundersen" wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:51 PM, James Rayner > wrote: > > The only reason net-tools was still a requirement was setting hostname. > > A change similar to initscripts [2] at line 121 of > > src/connections/ethernet [3] would suffice. > >

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-10 Thread Bogdan Ionuț
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 16:27, Ignacio Galmarino wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > Am Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:01:15 - > > schrieb "Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Tom Gundersen" > > : > > > >> Tom Gundersen wrote: > >> > >> This April marked the ten year anniversary

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-10 Thread Ignacio Galmarino
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:01:15 - > schrieb "Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Tom Gundersen" > : > >> Tom Gundersen wrote: >> >> This April marked the ten year anniversary of the last net-tools >> release. We decided to look at this as an oppor

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-10 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:51 PM, James Rayner wrote: > The only reason net-tools was still a requirement was setting hostname. > A change similar to initscripts [2] at line 121 of > src/connections/ethernet [3] would suffice. What is the reason the hostname is set in netcfg? Do we ever want it to

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-10 Thread James Rayner
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:19 +0200, "Rémy Oudompheng" wrote: > On 2011/6/9 Thomas S Hatch wrote: > > Does netcfg still need net-tools? or can it be an opt depends? It was my > > understanding that it only used ip unless specified otherwise. > > Actually, I think it only depends on net-tools because

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread Rémy Oudompheng
On 2011/6/9 Thomas S Hatch wrote: > Does netcfg still need net-tools? or can it be an opt depends? It was my > understanding that it only used ip unless specified otherwise. Actually, I think it only depends on net-tools because there is some obscure option that allows users to make it run ifconf

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread James Rayner
That is correct. net-utils could be made an optdepend, or the support could just be removed entirely. IIRC the iproute/netutils code was separate and equivalent. It's been a while since I've looked though. On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:11 -0600, "Thomas S Hatch" wrote: > Does netcfg still need net-tools

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread Thomas S Hatch
Does netcfg still need net-tools? or can it be an opt depends? It was my understanding that it only used ip unless specified otherwise.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> Am Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:01:15 - >> schrieb "Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Tom Gundersen" >> : >> >>> Tom Gundersen wrote: >>> >>> This April marked the ten year anniversary of the

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:01:15 - > schrieb "Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Tom Gundersen" > : > >> Tom Gundersen wrote: >> >> This April marked the ten year anniversary of the last net-tools >> release. We decided to look at this as an oppo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Deprecation of net-tools

2011-06-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:01:15 - schrieb "Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Tom Gundersen" : > Tom Gundersen wrote: > > This April marked the ten year anniversary of the last net-tools > release. We decided to look at this as an opportunity to deprecate > net-tools and provide alternative, and b