Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-27 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:18:32 -0500 schrieb Loui Chang : > Rp-pppoe doesn't need to stay in base to remain in core though. It > should be available to install via CD-ROM if it's in core. Can the rp-pppoe scripts also be run from the LiveCD's shell before starting the installation if it's not in ba

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-27 Thread Loui Chang
On Sun 28 Feb 2010 01:59 +0530, Gaurish Sharma wrote: > rp-pppoe should not be removed, Its very handy and easy to use tool. > It was using it this tool I was able to connect the internet in > ArchLinux. without it I won't be able to install arch. the alternative > ppp is hard to configure. Rp-ppp

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-27 Thread Gaurish Sharma
Hi, rp-pppoe should not be removed, Its very handy and easy to use tool. It was using it this tool I was able to connect the internet in ArchLinux. without it I won't be able to install arch. the alternative ppp is hard to configure. I am strongly against this, would recommend not touching rp-pppo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-27 Thread Pierre Chapuis
(Forked from arch-dev-public) On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:40:27 +0200, Roman Kyrylych wrote: > The following packages are questionable: > * diffutils - why it should be on every system? > * gawk - why it should be on every system? > [...] > * mailx > [...] > * vi - ok, no bikeshed thing here, but the

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Leandro Inacio
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:03, Allan McRae wrote: > On 26/02/10 22:31, Thomas Bächler wrote: > >> Am 26.02.2010 10:28, schrieb Allan McRae: >> >>> HI, >>> >>> I mentioned this several months ago and got no response so I will post >>> again. If there are no objections in 48 hours, the rebuilds wi

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 26.02.2010 14:01, schrieb Heiko Baums: > Am Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:31:36 +0100 > schrieb Thomas Bächler : > >> We don't need rp-pppoe in base (IMO not even in core, but others >> disagree). > > I disagree because configuring a pppoe client with pure ppp is far too > complicated. For people who ha

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:31:36 +0100 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > We don't need rp-pppoe in base (IMO not even in core, but others > disagree). I disagree because configuring a pppoe client with pure ppp is far too complicated. For people who haven't got a router and establish their DSL connections d

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:28:46 +0100 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > bsdtar can be used for that purpose. Didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Greetings, Heiko

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 26.02.2010 13:23, schrieb Heiko Baums: > cpio is probably not necessarily needed by the average user, but as far > as I know it's needed to uncompress or read the content of the initrd > (e.g. xzcat kernel26.img | cpio -t), which sometimes can be necessary > for debugging purposes. So I'm not su

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Allan McRae
On 26/02/10 22:23, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:28:24 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae: I mentioned this several months ago and got no response so I will post again. If there are no objections in 48 hours, the rebuilds will start hitting [testing]. FS#12890 suggests cleaning some of the

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:23:16 +0100 schrieb Heiko Baums : > And cryptsetup definitely needs to stay in [core] and in the base > group because this is needed for encrypting hard disks, which is > supported by AIF anyway. And cryptsetup is needed at boot time and > during the installation from the Li

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:28:24 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae : > I mentioned this several months ago and got no response so I will > post again. If there are no objections in 48 hours, the rebuilds > will start hitting [testing]. > > FS#12890 suggests cleaning some of the packages from the base group.