Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Jim Pryor lists+arch-gene...@jimpryor.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:52:45AM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-06 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 06.01.2010 16:56, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Jim Pryor lists+arch-gene...@jimpryor.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:52:45AM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun,

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-06 Thread Jim Pryor
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 06:03:32PM -0500, Jim Pryor wrote: Hi this is the author of yacron again. I've just heard from Matt Dillon, he says he's happy for me to take over development and maintainership of dcron. So what I'll do is create a release version of yacron, and rename it to

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-06 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 21:53 -0500, Jim Pryor wrote: On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 06:03:32PM -0500, Jim Pryor wrote: Hi this is the author of yacron again. I've just heard from Matt Dillon, he says he's happy for me to take over development and maintainership of dcron. So what I'll do

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-06 Thread Arvid Picciani
On 01/06/2010 12:03 AM, Jim Pryor wrote: Hi this is the author of yacron again. I've just heard from Matt Dillon, he says he's happy for me to take over development and maintainership of dcron. Congratulation. That's good news. I liked Yacron for maintaining minimalism while still meeting

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-05 Thread Jim Pryor
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:52:45AM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: Paul Mattal wrote: We've got several bugs relating to choosing a new default

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-05 Thread Dan McGee
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Jim Pryor lists+arch-gene...@jimpryor.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:52:45AM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Answering to arch-general again. ;-) Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:51:29 +0100 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be: When a crontab is missed due to system downtime, sometimes you want the crontab to be done when the system boots up, but sometimes you do not want that at all. (eg a cleanup

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 08:07:15 +0100 schrieb Xavier shinin...@gmail.com: Having one tool doing 2 different tasks is quite in contradiction with the KISS philosophy. That said, I think the rest of your argument is valid, kiss isn't the holy grail, sometimes having a tool that is less simple, less

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-04 Thread Heiko Baums
And regarding the missing support for /etc/cron.d in fcron, that's probably something for a feature request to upstream if someone thinks it's necessary. I haven't missed it yet. Greetings, Heiko

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-04 Thread Jim Pryor
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 12:37:05PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:51:29 +0100 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be: When a crontab is missed due to system downtime, sometimes you want the crontab to be done when the system boots up, but sometimes you do not want

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:52:45 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com: Though, I must admit, I did not see this email until after I replied. yacron was not evaluated when we looked into this... From Jim's explanations I think that it could be worth testing yacron, too. Greetings,

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:23:28 -0500 schrieb Paul Mattal p...@mattal.com: Is there also an issue we're trying to solve with anacron? Can't we use bcron (or any other cron for that matter) and still use anacron separately? I understand that fcron could theoretically do the work of both, but

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 07:35:35 +0100 schrieb Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de: I don't know bcron and yacron but I doubt that they have anacron features. Also fcron supports the directories /etc/cron.hourly, /etc/cron.daily, /etc/cron.weekly and /etc/cron.monthly. So it's very easy to

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-03 Thread Xavier
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: I vote for fcron because it has dcron and anacron features. Two separate packages is indeed a regression and not really KISS like because anacron can only do anacron and dcron can only do dcron while fcron can do both.