Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-29 Thread Stefan Erik Wilkens
2009/10/29 Xavier : > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Stefan Erik Wilkens > wrote: >> Through experimentation, I suppose you can find a few values to work >> with. From the quick glance I took at storage-fixup, it seems to >> disable the feature completely. Does anybody know if it's more >> advan

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-29 Thread Xavier
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Michael Towers wrote: > Given the difficulty of finding the optimal solution to this problem, > I think I agree with the earlier suggestion to just monitor the > situation and report to the user if there is a problem - and provide a > useful account of how to handl

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-29 Thread Michael Towers
Given the difficulty of finding the optimal solution to this problem, I think I agree with the earlier suggestion to just monitor the situation and report to the user if there is a problem - and provide a useful account of how to handle it. I imagine it would not be too difficult to write cron scri

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-29 Thread Xavier
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote: > Through experimentation, I suppose you can find a few values to work > with. From the quick glance I took at storage-fixup, it seems to > disable the feature completely. Does anybody know if it's more > advanced than this or is this the

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-29 Thread Stefan Erik Wilkens
2009/10/29 Aaron Griffin : > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Xavier wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Michael Towers >> wrote: >>> When I got a new laptop I investigated this problem a little and found >>> that with hdparm -B 254/255 the temperature went up quite >>> significantly. Thi

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-29 Thread Xavier
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > > Anyone happen to know how often the storage-fixup rules are updated? > My Eee drive isn't listed (mine does NOT have an SSD) so I'm not sure > what the hdparm params should be. > There might be a clue from the config file itself : http://g

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-29 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Xavier wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Michael Towers > wrote: >> When I got a new laptop I investigated this problem a little and found >> that with hdparm -B 254/255 the temperature went up quite >> significantly. This may be a freak and I would love

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-29 Thread Xavier
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Michael Towers wrote: > When I got a new laptop I investigated this problem a little and found > that with hdparm -B 254/255 the temperature went up quite > significantly. This may be a freak and I would love to know whether > there really is something behind it, b

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-29 Thread Michael Towers
When I got a new laptop I investigated this problem a little and found that with hdparm -B 254/255 the temperature went up quite significantly. This may be a freak and I would love to know whether there really is something behind it, but when I used -B 200 the temperature increase was clearly small

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-28 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Roman Kyrylych > wrote: >> 2009/10/19 Ng Oon-Ee : >>> On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 02:54 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >> Anyone else has some opinion about how to handle this? > > I'd like to affi

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-28 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Roman Kyrylych wrote: > 2009/10/19 Ng Oon-Ee : >> On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 02:54 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >>> >> Anyone else has some opinion about how to handle this? >>> > >>> > I'd like to affirm the opinions of Roman and Xavier and take some action >>> >

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-22 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:39, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote: > yes, it's a serious issue and yes the users should be aware. But should the > system itself decide to take this action or should we simply inform and let > the user decide. I lean towards the latter myself. > Absolutely inform the user. D

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-22 Thread Stefan Erik Wilkens
Hey guys, new to the list. Concerning this load_cycle_count issue, we should recall that applying hdparm -B 255 (254) /dev/sdx has more consequences that the user should, at least, be made aware of. As I'm sure you are all aware: completely disabeling the feature will cause increased heat product

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-21 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2009/10/19 Ng Oon-Ee : > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 02:54 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >> >> Anyone else has some opinion about how to handle this? >> > >> > I'd like to affirm the opinions of Roman and Xavier and take some action on >> > this. Thanks for picking up this topic! >> > Anyone object

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-18 Thread Alexander Lam
laptop-mode by itself won't do it, but laptop-mode-tools will. However, some users (such as I) see laptop-mode-tools as bloat because it comes with all this other stuff for controlling other aspects of power consumption.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-18 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 02:54 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: > >> Anyone else has some opinion about how to handle this? > > > > I'd like to affirm the opinions of Roman and Xavier and take some action on > > this. > > > > Anyone object to my putting storage-fixup in [extra] at least? If no > > obj

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup

2009-10-18 Thread Damjan Georgievski
>> Anyone else has some opinion about how to handle this? > > I'd like to affirm the opinions of Roman and Xavier and take some action on > this. > > Anyone object to my putting storage-fixup in [extra] at least? If no > objections by W 9/21, I plan to go ahead with that step. If it works out, we >