Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-13 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh huh... well the end users can just ask the package maintainer to see what they can do. Just one email. No bug reports and the attendant extra work those usually involve. i.e. Simple and usually exceptionally effective for an

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-13 Thread Xavier
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blah blah blah I have one simple policy for you : send your freaking desktop file upstream

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-13 Thread w9ya
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blah blah blah I am thrilled you liked it so much !! I have one simple policy for you : send your freaking desktop file upstream As you already know; I have previously said I do just that. And thank you for simplifying your

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-13 Thread w9ya
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh huh... well the end users can just ask the package maintainer to see what they can do. Just one email. No bug reports and the attendant extra work those usually involve. i.e. Simple and usually exceptionally effective for an

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-12 Thread w9ya
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why ?, well there is no reason NOT to have one in such circumstances, and often the upstream guys are expecting the downstream packagers to supply it. - And that's o.k. with me. That's not alright. Anything that causes useless and

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-12 Thread Xavier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It entails NO 'duplicated work' for me to supply a .desktop file when one is not extent. And my supplying it is not 'useless' (work) either. (And since I work from a template, it is also simple.) Um, your policy steps above sure seems to be a lot more steps than just

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-12 Thread w9ya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It entails NO 'duplicated work' for me to supply a .desktop file when one is not extent. And my supplying it is not 'useless' (work) either. (And since I work from a template, it is also simple.) Um, your policy steps above sure seems to be a lot more steps than

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-09 Thread Xavier
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why ?, well there is no reason NOT to have one in such circumstances, and often the upstream guys are expecting the downstream packagers to supply it. - And that's o.k. with me. That's not alright. Anything that causes useless and

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-09 Thread Neil Darlow
Hi, Xavier wrote: Hopefully this should reduce the load of arch packagers and move it to arch community and upstream. There is also the situation that upstream may not provide a .desktop file on the basis of: 1) The belief that distributions should decide which menu the item should appear

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-08 Thread bardo
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i wanted to note that there is http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_Project maintained by bardo a TU, which mentions absolutely nothing about upstream. Instead it says I (bardo) will write/modify the

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-08 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
On Thursday 08 May 2008 15:58:51 bardo wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i wanted to note that there is http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_Project maintained by bardo a TU, which mentions absolutely nothing about upstream.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-08 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 03:53:29PM +0300, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: On Thursday 08 May 2008 15:58:51 bardo wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i wanted to note that there is http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_Project

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-08 Thread Ryan Sims
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 03:53:29PM +0300, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: On Thursday 08 May 2008 15:58:51 bardo wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i wanted to note

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-08 Thread Alessio Bolognino
On Thu 2008-05-08 10:06 , Ryan Sims wrote: We needn't get bogged down in another is this the ARCH WAY?!?! conversation here; I swear I don't want to. I don't think it needs to be a policy decision. If neither Arch nor upstream want to deal with .desktop files (and they both seem to have

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-08 Thread w9ya
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 03:53:29PM +0300, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: On Thursday 08 May 2008 15:58:51 bardo wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i wanted to note