Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em agosto 15, 2017 15:58 Henrik Danielsson via arch-general escreveu: The Gmail Android app sends HTML emails - which I forgot when replying during my lunch break - and I'm sorry for that, but it's not something I can do anything about. Actually it sends multipart MIME, both HTML and text.

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Henrik Danielsson via arch-general
2017-08-15 21:10 GMT+02:00 Eli Schwartz : > Oddly enough, I use Thunderbird, which displays HTML mail fine, and > viewing the message source tells me that message was formatted as > (mangled) plaintext. The one I sent first, from my phone, clearly has the header for

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 08/15/2017 02:58 PM, Henrik Danielsson via arch-general wrote: > I could also suggest you instead use a client capable of displaying > HTML, then the quotes don't look that bad, but you're probably just as > unlikely to change as anyone else. ;) Oddly enough, I use Thunderbird, which displays

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Henrik Danielsson via arch-general
2017-08-15 15:32 GMT+02:00 Eli Schwartz : > I have no patience for reading people's broken quoting. Please try > again, this time using a decent email client. > The Gmail Android app sends HTML emails - which I forgot when replying during my lunch break - and I'm sorry for

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Martin Kühne via arch-general
Someone call 911, another trainwreck thread on [arch-general]. Watching the carnage ensue is not as much fun as it should be though, so long after responders no longer pretend to care. That being said, we should definitely add a versioned dependency between fuse-common and sshfs. Just because my

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Eli Schwartz
I have no patience for reading people's broken quoting. Please try again, this time using a decent email client. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
OT: If for some reason proper quoting should be broken, top-posting could be a better solution, than very broken bottom-posting, let alone the broken interleaved posting of a previous reply.

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Henrik Danielsson via arch-general
Den 15 aug. 2017 13:46 skrev "Eli Schwartz" : On 08/15/2017 03:47 AM, Paul Gideon Dann via arch-general wrote: > Yes, partial upgrades are unsupported, but in practice this still happens, > usually not deliberately. For instance, I will quite often do a "pacman -S > "

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 08/15/2017 03:47 AM, Paul Gideon Dann via arch-general wrote: > Yes, partial upgrades are unsupported, but in practice this still happens, > usually not deliberately. For instance, I will quite often do a "pacman -S > " without doing a full system update first, assuming that > *probably*

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Paul Gideon Dann via arch-general
On 14 August 2017 at 13:48, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 14:03:45 +0200, mpan wrote: > >> why does a package from official repositories mentions what version > >> of a dependency is required? > >Because it may be that it is working only with that particular >

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-14 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 08/14/2017 08:48 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 14:03:45 +0200, mpan wrote: >>> why does a package from official repositories mentions what version >>> of a dependency is required? >> Because it may be that it is working only with that particular >> version. > > That doesn't

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:03:01 +0200, mpan wrote: >Another case: sometimes multiple packages in the official repo may >deliver the same thing: see jre8-openjdk and jre7-openjdk Those packages provide java-runtime and java-runtime-openjdk, but you could install both packages and if a package needs a

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-14 Thread mpan
>>> why does a package from official repositories mentions what version >>> of a dependency is required? >> Because it may be that it is working only with that particular >> version. > That doesn't explain why it is needed or in any way useful for a package > provided by official Arch

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-14 Thread mpan
> why does a package from official repositories mentions what version of > a dependency is required? Because it may be that it is working only with that particular version. The two common scenarios are: 1) The package requires protocol/API/ABI/header/etc-level compatibility. You may see

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-14 Thread David Runge
Hi Ralf, On 2017-08-14 10:36:45 (+0200), Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Note! I'm not asking anybody not to do it like this! I only want to know > the reason for mentioning a version of a dependency, for packages from > official repositories, since I don't know any reason. IOW I only want > to learn.

[arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi, why does a package from official repositories mentions what version of a dependency is required? Since the actually optional dependency pulseaudio by upstream often is required as a hard dependency, for no sane reason, I installed a dummy package years ago, to workaround time consuming