Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-21 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 01:33 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 18.04.2010 01:22, schrieb Rob Bean: > > It looks like there are only 3: gnome-vfs, > gstreamer0.10-good-plugins, and > > vlc. I can use ABS to rebuild these without HAL, but I'm concerned > that > > these packages may actually need it.

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-21 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 02:15 +0530, Gaurish Sharma wrote: > Hi, > On my system. HAL is requried by > gnome-vfs, gstreamer0.10-good-plugins, handbrake, kdelibs, > picasa-beta, vlc, xbmc > > > It seems Migration would take a long time That's been covered in the prior discussion. KDE is the m

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-20 Thread Gaurish Sharma
Hi, On my system. HAL is requried by gnome-vfs, gstreamer0.10-good-plugins, handbrake, kdelibs, picasa-beta, vlc, xbmc It seems Migration would take a long time Gaurish

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-20 Thread Muhammed Uluyol
> > You didn't even mention WHAT is a design fault. But frankly, I don't > care, as this is neither the topic here, nor is it the right place to > complain about design faults in Linux or HAL. > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/hal/2008-May/011560.html

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-20 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 20.04.2010 13:22, schrieb Thomas Bächler: > Again, I have no idea what particular problem exists in Linux that > doesn't in Solaris, as you didn't even mention that. But again, this is > not the place to discuss about Solaris or Linux design. Especially not > about Solaris, as it is entirely on

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-20 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 20.04.2010 13:01, schrieb Joerg Schilling: > "Laurie Clark-Michalek" wrote: > >>> The important question is: by what will hal replaced? >> >> UDev > > Note that people have been talking about Xorg which is a highly portable > project. So this is most likely not correct as e.g. Solaris has no

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Laurie Clark-Michalek" wrote: > > The important question is: by what will hal replaced? > > UDev Note that people have been talking about Xorg which is a highly portable project. So this is most likely not correct as e.g. Solaris has no udev and will never introduce udev. There is the /device

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-18 Thread Rob Bean
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Isaac Dupree < m...@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org> wrote: > On 04/18/10 10:13, Arvid Picciani wrote: > >> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:22:28 -0700, Rob Bean wrote: >> >> Has anyone else stripped HAL completely out of their Arch install? >>> >> >> Thats exactly why heres

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-18 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 04/18/10 10:13, Arvid Picciani wrote: On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:22:28 -0700, Rob Bean wrote: Has anyone else stripped HAL completely out of their Arch install? Thats exactly why heresy was started. ( http://hereticlinux.org/ ) Its archlinux minus hal/dbus/rapekit. Search the list for "Whats

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-18 Thread Arvid Picciani
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:22:28 -0700, Rob Bean wrote: > Has anyone else stripped HAL completely out of their Arch install? Thats exactly why heresy was started. ( http://hereticlinux.org/ ) Its archlinux minus hal/dbus/rapekit. Search the list for "Whats wrong with dbus anyway" under the thread

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-18 Thread Laurie Clark-Michalek
On Sunday 18 April 2010 12:05:00 Joerg Schilling wrote: > Thomas Bächler wrote: > > > Has anyone else stripped HAL completely out of their Arch install? > > > > Would be too nice, but it looks like KDE 4.5 won't be HAL-free yet and > > we'll have to wait for 4.6 - so I will keep HAL around for

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-18 Thread Mauro Santos
On 04/18/2010 12:22 AM, Rob Bean wrote: > I've recently started using Xorg 1.8 from the [xorg18] repo to finally be > able to get rid of HAL. Xorg is working fine, but I want to remove the > remaining packages that depend on HAL. > > It looks like there are only 3: gnome-vfs, gstreamer0.10-good-p

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Thomas Bächler wrote: > > Has anyone else stripped HAL completely out of their Arch install? > > Would be too nice, but it looks like KDE 4.5 won't be HAL-free yet and > we'll have to wait for 4.6 - so I will keep HAL around for at least half > a year. The important question is: by what will hal

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-17 Thread Rob Bean
Ok. I'm just going to rebuild them and see what happens. :) On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 18.04.2010 01:22, schrieb Rob Bean: > > It looks like there are only 3: gnome-vfs, gstreamer0.10-good-plugins, > and > > vlc. I can use ABS to rebuild these without HAL, but

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-17 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 18.04.2010 01:22, schrieb Rob Bean: > It looks like there are only 3: gnome-vfs, gstreamer0.10-good-plugins, and > vlc. I can use ABS to rebuild these without HAL, but I'm concerned that > these packages may actually need it. From short discussions with Jan, I determined that the HAL dependenc

[arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-17 Thread Rob Bean
I've recently started using Xorg 1.8 from the [xorg18] repo to finally be able to get rid of HAL. Xorg is working fine, but I want to remove the remaining packages that depend on HAL. It looks like there are only 3: gnome-vfs, gstreamer0.10-good-plugins, and vlc. I can use ABS to rebuild these w