Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-31 Thread Gerhard Brauer
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 07:58:21PM +0200, Gerhard Brauer wrote: > tzdata/tzselect on ISOs: > Meanwhile (i wrote on other mail) i would prefer to handle it like km. > Maybe it could be combined with the km hint in /etc/motd. So you must > not "hurt" the installer, but it is on a place where every u

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-30 Thread Gerhard Brauer
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 05:17:18PM +0300, Roman Kyrylych wrote: > 2008/3/30, Gerhard Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Aha, it seems now I've got it. ;-) Yes, english isn't my mother language. I think, someone who reads my mails guess: Oh, a six year old child on list ;-) > I didn't know (or forgo

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-30 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/3/30, Gerhard Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, > > i've done a bit more testing. > First i think it's not a bug in any package. It's only a mismatch > between clock set on install machine and the timezone which is later set > during config. > > 1. I guess there is absolut no problem o

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3?superblock mount time in future

2008-03-30 Thread Gerhard Brauer
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 01:40:10PM +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: > i vote for putting a) in the instalation guide so new users dont get scared > by > this (imo) non issue. You're right, it's not an real issue. Only a little annoying if you forget to set it correctly. I've last test somethi

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-30 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Sunday 30 March 2008 15:20:38 Gerhard Brauer wrote: > Solutions: > a) set the time by hand (KISS, maybe put a hint on installation guide?) > date -s "13:46 CEST" result in: > Sun Mar 30 11:46 UTC 2008 > which is the now correct UTC time. > b) put tzdata package on ISO, so the user could use tzse

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-30 Thread Gerhard Brauer
Hello, i've done a bit more testing. First i think it's not a bug in any package. It's only a mismatch between clock set on install machine and the timezone which is later set during config. 1. I guess there is absolut no problem on machines where the hardware clock is set to UTC by default. 2.

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:22:37AM +0200, Roman Kyrylych wrote: > 2008/3/30, Roman Kyrylych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2008/3/29, Grigorios Bouzakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 02:12:35PM +0100, Gerhard Brauer wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > i've noticed this me

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/3/29, Gerhard Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 03:16:00PM +0200, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > > > > This only appears if you set the HARDWWARECLOCK to UTC as far as i can > > tell. > > > Most times in virtual machines i leave it to localtime. > But the hwclock of a vm

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/3/30, Roman Kyrylych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/3/29, Grigorios Bouzakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 02:12:35PM +0100, Gerhard Brauer wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > i've noticed this meanwhile quiet often after many installations. > > > Currently after a test w

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/3/29, Grigorios Bouzakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 02:12:35PM +0100, Gerhard Brauer wrote: > > Hello, > > > > i've noticed this meanwhile quiet often after many installations. > > Currently after a test with 2008.03-0.3, but also with older ISOs: > > > > After instal

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/3/29, Callan Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Benjamin Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, > > > > > > "Callan Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Who cares? If it's an issue perhaps you should use a different > distribution. > > > > Th

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Gerhard Brauer
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 04:53:38PM +0100, Gerhard Brauer wrote: > > Maybe a little more technical discussion from those who care? Ok, i've done another test (at the moment i could reproduce it in virtualbox): I've started the installation on 18:01 localtime (here CET). , | inside the VM: | d

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Armando M. Baratti
Dan McGee wrote: On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Gerhard Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, i've noticed this meanwhile quiet often after many installations. Currently after a test with 2008.03-0.3, but also with older ISOs: After install and first reboot i got such fsc

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Callan Barrett
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Benjamin Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > > "Callan Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Who cares? If it's an issue perhaps you should use a different > distribution. > > That seems to be quite an uncalled for reply. > > Let's see... Gerhard

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Benjamin Andresen
Hey, "Callan Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Who cares? If it's an issue perhaps you should use a different distribution. That seems to be quite an uncalled for reply. Let's see... Gerhard Brauer tests the ArchISO ftp install on various machines. He then notices a bug that gives the impr

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Gerhard Brauer
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 09:59:13AM -0500, Dan McGee wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Gerhard Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Cause this is the *first* reboot after installation users will get a bad > > impression about Arch. > > Oh noes! We couldn't ever have a bad impression! W

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Callan Barrett
Who cares? If it's an issue perhaps you should use a different distribution. -- Callan 'wizzomafizzo' Barrett

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Dan McGee
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Gerhard Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > i've noticed this meanwhile quiet often after many installations. > Currently after a test with 2008.03-0.3, but also with older ISOs: > > After install and first reboot i got such fsck notice during rc: > >

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Gerhard Brauer
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 03:16:00PM +0200, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > > This only appears if you set the HARDWWARECLOCK to UTC as far as i can > tell. Most times in virtual machines i leave it to localtime. But the hwclock of a vm comes from the host system (here it's set to UTC). > Even though

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 02:12:35PM +0100, Gerhard Brauer wrote: > Hello, > > i've noticed this meanwhile quiet often after many installations. > Currently after a test with 2008.03-0.3, but also with older ISOs: > > After install and first reboot i got such fsck notice during rc: > > , > | /

[arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-29 Thread Gerhard Brauer
Hello, i've noticed this meanwhile quiet often after many installations. Currently after a test with 2008.03-0.3, but also with older ISOs: After install and first reboot i got such fsck notice during rc: , | /dev/sda3: Superblock last mount time is in the future. FIXED | /dev/sda3 has gone